HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP201800001 Correspondence 2023-01-25Megan Nedostup
From:
Shawn Maddox
Sent:
Friday, March 02, 2018 3:27 PM
To:
Megan Nedostup
Subject:
Re: Keswick SP
My understanding is that it would be connected to the well and they will also make the pool available for fire
suppression water supply if needed. They did ask multiple times if we would support a boundary adjustment
of the service authority's area and we would if asked.
From: Megan Nedostup
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 3:22 PM
To: Shawn Maddox
Subject: RE: Keswick SP
Thanks Shawn. Do you know how that tank will be filled/replenished? Will it be connected to the well?
From: Shawn Maddox
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 3:18 PM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Keswick SP
Good afternoon Megan - those hydrants have never been adequate for fire suppression and Fire Rescue has
always treated the property as a rural water supply location, (meaning we automatically dispatch tankers to
bring water). Current testing by the owners engineer confirms this. Based on my last discussion with the
owner and his engineers they are considering an approximately 60,000 gallon tank, (above ground or below
ground is being discussed), that will provide 1,000 gallons per minute for one hour. I would need to get with
their sprinkler design professional to tell you exactly what the new fire flow demand would be. I hope this
helps.
Shawn
From: Megan Nedostup
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 2:09 PM
To: Shawn Maddox
Subject: RE: Keswick SP
Shawn,
This use is limited by the capacity of the water and sewage system per the ordinance. Can you give me
information about the required flow for what they are proposing? Since this is a central system, I am concerned
that they will not be able to meet the needs of the fire, existing residences, and the inn uses. At the community
meeting on Tuesday, residents of the Keswick subdivision mentioned that the hydrants out there were dry,
which I am not sure if that's accurate or not. However, we need to make sure that they have adequate water
for all the uses that feed out of the system.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Megan Nedostup, AICP (former Yanlglos)
(pronounced nuh-DAHSf-up)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Shawn Maddox
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 5:09 PM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Keswick SP
Hi Megan - thanks for checking on it! I actually met with Craig and a bunch of other folks the owner brought in
for some design meetings. They are doing to address all water supply and access concerns during the site plan
phase. They have agreed to meet all of our fire code requirements and have been updating me as they work
through the design.
Shawn
From: Megan Nedostup
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 1:55 PM
To: Shawn Maddox
Subject: Keswick SP
Hi Shawn,
I saw that you have no objection in CV for the Keswick SP. I wanted to make sure there weren't any
fire concerns with this inn, and the subdivision residences being served by the same central water
system.
Thanks,
Megan Nedostup, AICP (former Yaniglos)
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
Megan Nedostup
From: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH)<Joshua.Kirtley@vdh.virginia.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:46 PM
To: Megan Nedostup
Subject: RE: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Megan:
It appears that the only calculations presented in the report are for the existing uses on the property. They do
not seem to take into consideration further development outside of their current proposal.
As far as whether or not future homes could have their own sewage disposal system and private well, that can
only be determined on a case by case (lot by lot) basis. Technology and regulations have certainly developed
to where it could be possible within the current regulatory fabric whereas it wasn't an option back when the
lots were platted. Drainfield suitability is site dependent and must be made on an individual basis. At this
point, one cannot say with 100% certainty that any of the individual lots are suitable for an onsite SDS and
private well.
Josh
Josh Kirtley
Environmental Health Technical Consultant
Onsite Sewage and Water Programs
Thomas Jefferson Health District
Office (434) 972-6288
From: Megan Nedostup [mailto:mnedostup@albemarle.org)
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:39 PM
To: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH) <Joshua.Kirtley@vdh.virginia.gov>
Subject: RE: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Thank you Josh,
I just want to clarify that you are saying that it does not appear that the calculations take into account the
existing subdivision lots that have not been developed, correct? If yes, would the future houses be able to have
their own well and septic and not be a part of the system?
Megan Nedostup, A/CP (former Yaniglos)
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH) [mailto:Joshua.Kirtley@vdh.virginia.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:31 PM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Good afternoon, Megan.
VDH does not have authority over the permitting process for any additional connections made to an existing
DEQ permitted treatment system. See Marcia's email below.
At this point, it's a matter of ensuring that both the water and wastewater supplies have adequate capacity for
the proposed expansion. The applicant has provided a report which lists the water capacity at 76,000 gpd and
the sewage treatment plant capacity to be 60,000 gpd. The report goes on to estimate the water demands
after Phase IB of this project to be 74,300 gpd. At first glance, it appears that the water supply demand will
exceed the sewage treatment plant capacity. I would question how much of the current and estimated water
use is used for irrigation, pool filling, etc and therefore never makes it to the treatment plant in the form of
sewage.
Taking into consideration the existing water use and the proposed additions, along with the permitted
capacity of the STP, I would tend to think that they should be able to justify the proposal with further
corespondance. I say this because they appear to be well under the permitted capacity based on a peak daily
average and I'm assuming that a certain portion of the water that is used never makes its way to the STP. I
also believe that they can itemize the additional uses to justify the expanded services.
Please note that the projected water use and wastewater treatment capacity doesn't appear to take into
consideration any future development on the property.
If you have any questions, or if I can clarify anything, please let me know.
Have a good afternoon,
Josh
Josh Kirtley
Environmental Health Technical Consultant
Onsite Sewage and Water Programs
Thomas Jefferson Health District
Office (434) 972-6288
From: Degen, Marcia (VDH)
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 4:50 PM
To: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH) <Joshua.Kirtley@vdh.virginia.gov>
Subject: RE: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Hi Josh,
So VDH has no authority to issue any permits for a DEQ permitted facility.
If a construction permit is needed for the connection, DEQ would issue it.
I was trying to find info on the process on the DEQwebsite, but couldn't find it.
It used to be that as long as there was capacity, DEQ would issue a construction permit for the connection but with this
small a system, they may not require anything. Just have them contact their permit writer at DEQ to see what DEQ
wants'. You can also let DEQ know as well to give them a heads up. If you're not sure who to contact, you can always
contact the water permit manager at the DEQ office, give them the permit name/number, and let them know what's
going on.
I like easy questions. Keep em coming....
Marcia
From: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH)
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 4:02 PM
To: Degen, Marcia (VDH) <Marcia.DeQen@vdh.virginia.gov>
Subject: FW: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Good afternoon, Marcia. Hope that you're doing well.
I was wondering if you could help me out with a few questions that I have regarding a discharge system here
in Albemarle. Keswick Hall is served by a DEQ issued discharge permit for up to 60,000 gpd with a permit is in
good standing. They are proposing to build a couple of additional buildings for a new restaurant and a new
hotel wing, but the additional flow will not push them past their permitted limit. At this time, they are
operating well below their permitted limit (approx. 32-34,000 gpd).
A couple of questions for you:
1. Which agency is responsible for the sewer connections to the existing collection system? Would VDH
need to approve minor modification permits for these additional lines?
2. If VDH is responsible for issuing the minor modification permits, what information should be
required? I'm hoping to keep is simple, but at the same time, I don't have information about the
collection system. Should we get information on this?
3. Is there a process to let DEQ know about the proposed construction? I don't want them to be
"surprised" even though the resulting additional water use will still be well below the permitted limit
(per conversation with the PE group).
This project is in the early phases, but I've been asked to review the proposal and to provide comments for the
County.
As always, I appreciate your time.
Josh
Josh Kirtley
Environmental Health Technical Consultant
Onsite Sewage and Water Programs
Thomas Jefferson Health District
Office (434) 972-6288
From: Bruce Strickland [mailto:Bruce.Strickland@timmons.com]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 3:27 PM
To: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH) <Joshua.Kirtley@vdh.vireinia.gov>
Subject: RE: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Josh,
Great to finally catchup with you. As requested, I have attached the latest NPDES permit for the Keswick WWTP along'
with a fact sheet provided by DEQ. Please contact me if any additional information is needed.
Thank you,
Bruce
Bruce W. Strickland, Jr., P.E.
Water Infrastructure Engineer
TIMMONS GROUP ( www.timmons.com
1001 Boulders Parkway, Suite 300 1 Richmond, VA 23225
Office: 804.200.6389 1 Fax: 804.560.1016
bruce. strickl a nd (cDti m m ons.com
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From: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH) [mailto:Joshua.Kirtley(@vdh.virginia.go_v)
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:09 PM
To: Craig Kotarski <Craig.Kotarski@timmons.com>
Cc: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bruce Strickland <Bruce.Strickland@timmons.com>
Subject: RE: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Thanks, Craig.
Bruce: Please give me a call at your convenience to discuss.
Have a good evening,
Josh
Josh Kirtley
Environmental Health Technical Consultant
Onsite Sewage and Water Programs
Thomas Jefferson Health District
Office (434) 972-6288
From: Craig Kotarski [maiIto: Craig. Kota rski@timmons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:21 PM
To: Kirtley, Joshua (VDH) <Joshua.Kirtlev vdh.virginia.gov>
Cc: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bruce Strickland <Bruce.Strickland@timmons.com>
Subject: RE: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Josh,
Not to keep passing you off, but I am copying in Bruce Strickland who is working on the water systems at Keswick. Bruce
has a solid understanding of what capacities still exist and can coordinate a meeting on site at Keswick. He is out of the
office for the next day or so, at a conference, but had previously been coordinating some items with Steve Kvech at VDH.
Best,
Craig
Craig Kotarski, P.E., LEED AP
Principal
TIMMONS GROUP I www.timmons.com
608 Preston Avenue, Suite 200 1 Charlottesville, VA 22903
Office: 434.327.1688 1 Fax: 434.295.8317
Mobile: 434.964,7148 1 craig.kotarskiO-timmons.com
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From: Megan Nedostup[mailto:mnedostuoi'r)albemarle.ore]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:56 AM
To: Josh Kirtley <Joshua.kirtlev@vdh.virginia.gov>; Craig Kotarski <Craig.Kotarski[n)timmons.com>
Subject: Special Use Permit- Keswick SP2018-001
Josh:
I am forwarding your contact information to Craig with Timmons (copied on this email) to follow up with you
on a possible site visit for Keswick. Please keep me in the loop if a day/time is scheduled in case 1 am able to
join.
Josh Kirtley
Environmental Health Technical Consultant
Onsite Sewage and Water Programs
Thomas Jefferson Health District
Office (434) 972-6288
Thank you,
Megan Nedostup, A/CP (former Yaniglos)
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296,5832 ext. 3004
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Keswick Hall Community Meeting
Keswick Hall Special Use Permit Request, SP 2018-0001
February 8, 2018
Dear Neighbor,
On behalf of Historic Hotels of Albemarle, LLC and Keswick Club, LLC, the owners of Keswick
Hall and Golf Course, we invite you to attend a Community Meeting on February 27 at 5:30pm. The
meeting will be held at the East Rivanna Volunteer Fire Company Banquet Hall, located at 3501
Steamer Dr, Keswick, VA 22947. The purpose of the community meeting will be the present
information regarding our request to amend the existing Special Use Permit ("SP") governing the
property, which consists of approximately 174 acres and is comprised of Albemarle County Tax Map
and Parcels 08000-00-00-00-008Z0 and 08000-00-00-00900.
The Keswick property is located within the Rural Areas ("RA") zoning district of Albemarle
County; Lodges and Swim, Golf and Tennis Clubs are allowed pursuant to a Special Use Permit in the
RA district. The property was first approved for a Special Use Permit in 1978, with the most recent
amendment to the SP being SP 2008-42, which allowed for the expansion of the Inn, including up to
123 permitted rooms (75 in addition to the existing 48 keys) and a 13 room spa, among other
improvements. County staff is requiring amendments to the existing SP because the location of the
hotel expansion and spa has shifted. The current request is for fewer guest rooms and fewer spa
rooms than what was previously approved. The owners also intend to move Fossett's from inside the
Inn to a proposed addition of the Clubhouse. The expansion of the Inn use will be accommodated
through upgrades to the existing Energy Plant that is adjacent to the Clubhouse and a new Laundry
and Maintenance Facility.
During the meeting, we will provide an opportunity for residents to receive information and ask
questions about the proposed project, County review procedures, and relevant regulations and policies
of the County applicable to the proposed project. The applicant and County Staff will be available at
the meeting to answer questions about the project and the review process.
The meeting will start at 5:30pm with a project overview presentation and a questions and
answers session afterwards. The Fire Station is located just off Route 250. Turn onto Glenmore Way,
and then take a left onto Steamer Drive. To access the parking lot during construction, turn right at
beginning of building and proceed behind building, turn left and follow rear of building to event parking
that is on the east side of the building. If you are unable to attend but have questions regarding the
project, please feel free to contact me at vlono(&williamsmullen.com or 434-951-5709.
We look forward to seeing you there.
Sincerely,
Valerie Long
35578622_1
Megan Nedostup
Subject: Keswick water/wastewater coordination
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Location: A
Start: Wed 4/11/2018 9:30 AM
End: Wed 4/11/2018 10:00 AM
Recurrence: (none)
Meeting Status: Accepted
Organizer: Andrew Knuppel
Required Attendees: Megan Nedostup; David Benish; Francis MacCall
Meet briefly to coordinate comments related to Keswick's water/wastewater systems and make sure we're all the on
the same page. See my thoughts (below).
Clarify relationship between ordinance text and SP process/conditions for expansion.
o David is drafting a memo to Amelia to confirm the interpretation discussed on 3/30.
o Any other next steps?
Timing/phasing/triggers of necessary system expansions, BOS approval.
o AK will comment: we will plan to recommend implementation of system expansions as conditions of
approval. Conditions shall coordinate with phases and alternatives outlined in the Water/Wastewater
Facilities Plan, similar to below:
Base Improvement W1 (internal fire protection) approved by BOS before Phase 1A bldg. permit
issuance, completed for CO.
• Base Improvement W2 (new well, storage tank) approved by BOS before Phase 1B (new wing)
bldg. permit issuance, completed for CO.
• Applicant thinks it can wait until Phase 2, but I think we could address subdivision
concerns by doing this now.
Example language: "The applicant shall seek and obtain all necessary approvals by the Virginia
Department of Health and the County Board of Supervisors for a water system improvement
egwvalent-to-or-exceeding the designed standards of "Base Improvement W1: Dedicated Internal
lire-�ion" as described in the "Water and Wastewater Facilities Plan 2017 Update for
Keswick Hall & Golf Club" dated December 1, 2017 and revised March 19, 2018 (hereinafter the
`2017 Water/Wastewater Plan') before a building permit for the proposed improvements
described in Phase 1A of the aforementioned plan may be issued. No certificates of occupancy
for the improvements in Phase IA shall be issued prior to the completion of the aforementioned
water system improvement."
See pg. 5-16 of the Water/Wastewater Plan for applicant's phasing justifications.
Is this satisfactory for this comment cycle since they're looking to schedule a PC date?
o Does conditioning the new well and storage tank with Phase 1B seem roughly proportional to Phase
16's impacts?
• The current limiting factor of the water system is storage per U5.3, with a 38,000 gal effective
storage capacity limiting the permitted system capacity to 76,000 gpd (VDH waterworks states
storage must be equivalent to 50%of design capacity).
• Under the projected peak demand for Phase 1B (74,300 gpd) there would only be 1,700 gpd of
permitted system capacity in excess, equivalent to 850 gallons of effective storage capacity. VDH
needs 200 gal of effective storage capacity for human consumption per equivalent residential
connection (ERC) per
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/admincode/titlel2/agencv5/chapter590/section690/ ).
• After buildout of 18, not more than 4 new ERCs could occur. From a first glance at GIS-Web, 4
unbuilt lots approved and platted pursuant to SP2000-33 and SUB2005-47 are not owned by
Keswick (80-101, 80-10M, 80-1013, 80-9T). Would building 5 of the 77 "future" single family
residences require nonexistent storage capacity?
o Wastewater appears to be OK through Phase 3 — we won't worry about conditioning specific phasing at
this time.
• Nothing beyond Phase 1B is to be approved under this SP.
o Concept plan does not show Phases 2 or 3, and the applicant is not addressing impacts related to these
phases at this time. No point in addressing their water/wastewater impacts yet.
Last week we met to discuss whether the proposed Keswick Inn modifications in the SP201----- application is a
permitted use under the interpretation of 2715 below. This question is based on the knowledge that past and
current studies of the utility systems (specifically water) have have shown, given all of the potential
users/properties with the rights use the system, that the water system would need to be expanded. That situation
could be interpreted as inconsistent with language of 27B stating "...provided the restaurant or inn is served by
existing water and sewerage systems having adequate capacity for both the existing and proposed uses and
facilities "served by existing water and sewerage system having adequate capacity... without expansion of either
system."
10.2.2.27 Restaurants, taverns, and inns that are:
b. Nonconforming uses, provided the restaurant or inn is served by existing water and sewerage systems
having adequate capacity for both the existing and proposed uses and facilities without expansion of
either system.
I believe our conclusion at the end of that meeting was that is that:
• Any future estimated/projected expansion does not prohibit the application for expansion.
If capacity exists within the system to serve the restaurant or inn at the time of a SP request, the
application for use can be accepted for review.
• Impacts of projected/future capacity issues would be considered as part of the SP request.
I'm OK with this conclusion but I still have a little uneasiness about this:
It seems that including the language in 27b "...for both the existing and proposed uses.." might have been
intended to capture not only existing and proposed uses and facilities at the restaurant/inn, but also the
other proposed/future users of the system (included to acknowledge and capture other existing and
future users of the systems besides the restaurant -inn). Our conclusion, I think, was that this phrase only
applies to the existing and proposed restaurant/inn uses. It would seem that this must have been the
basis for prior interpretations of this sections when other SPs were reviewed in the 2000s. Are we still OK
with this construction?
Also:
Have our interpretations of this section, past and present, completely negated any substantive
value/purpose of the "without expansion" terminology? It seems like at one time it might have the most
critical and measurable component of the section, and it now rendered superfluous.
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COMMONWEALTH of VIRGINIA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
1601 Orenpe Hoed
Culpeper VryiNa 22701
Stephen C. Brrch, P.E.
Commissioner
April 6, 2018
County of Albemarle
Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
Attn: Megan Nedostup
Re: Southwood TIA
ZMA 2018-00003
Review #1
Dear Ms. Nedostup:
The Department of Transportation, Charlottesville Residency Transportation and Land Use
Section, has reviewed the above referenced study as submitted by Timmons Group, dated 19
February 2018, and offers the following comments:
1. Please revise the study to include the correct number of proposed residential units.
2. The trip generation, as proposed in the study requires that this become a VDOT-
mandated study (previously referred to as Chapter 527) as it will generate more than
5,000 trips per day.
3. Due to the change in type of study required, the Department will require a meeting to
revise the scope of the project in accordance with the applicable regulations.
4. The study suggests that the proposed impacts will have negative impacts on the
operations of multiple intersections to the east of the proposed primary entrance.
Mitigation for these impacts should be discussed in the re-scoping meeting and analysis
of any proposals included in the revised TIA.
5. The proposed road cross sections and designs shall be in accordance with the VDOT
Road Design Manual, Appendix B I and all other applicable standards.
6. Sidewalk widths shall be 5 feet where adjacent to a buffer strip and 8 feet where adjacent
concrete curb.
7. Buffer strips are a minimum of 3 feet in width unless they are proposed to have trees
planted within them. If trees are proposed for the butter strips they shall be 6 feet in
width.
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Please contact me at (434)422-9782 to schedule a re-scoping meeting for the TIA and provide a
comment response letter with subsequent submissions.
Sincerely,
Adam J. Moore, P.E.
Area Land Use Engineer
Charlottesville Residency
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