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July 11, 2006
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a meeting and a public hearing on Tuesday, July 11,
2006, at 6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Room 241, Second Floor, 401 McIntire Road,
Charlottesville, Virginia. Members attending were Bill Edgerton, Eric Strucko, Calvin Morris, Vice -
Chairman; Pete Craddock, Jo Higgins, Jon Cannon and Marcia Joseph, Chairman. Julia Monteith, Senior
Land Use Planner for the University of Virginia, representative for David J. Neuman, FAIA, Architect of
University of Virginia was absent.
Other officials present were Wayne Cilimberg, Planning Director; Elaine Echols, Principal Planner;
Rebecca Ragsdale, Senior Planner; Steve Tugwell, Planner; Mark Graham, Director of Community
Development; David Pennock, Principal Planner; Tamara Ambler, Natural Resources Manager; Glenn
Brooks, Senior Engineer; Jack Kelsey, County Engineer; Ron White, Director of Housing; Amelia
McCulley, Zoning & Current Development Director/Zoning Administrator and Greg Kamptner, Deputy
County Attorney.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum:
Ms. Joseph called the regular meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and established a quorum.
Committee Reports:
Mr. Morris reported that the Interchange Group for McIntire/Meadow Creek will have another
meeting on June 27 to recap everything that happened at the public meeting. That group of
consultants will then go back and are pushing forward to provide their recommendations back to
the group by the fall. They are really getting an awful lot of input from the public that they are now
going to do something with. He anticipated the recommendations coming back in the fall and
actually having a decision by January or February as far as what they will recommend.
Mr. Edgerton reported that there was an ACE Committee meeting last night. They are
proceeding with the sixth class of conservation easement that the County will be purchasing
development rights for. It is running along pretty well, but they are running into a couple
obstacles. The biggest one is the cost or value of land and the appraisals. The first year they
were able to do 10 easements and now they were down to about 5.5 with the same amount of
dollars. The Board has given a little bit more money towards the incremental increase in cost.
The Committee is going back and looking hard at some of the language in the easements to
make sure that they are comfortable with what they originally thought would work. They plan to
spend some time over the next several months on that review.
Mr. Cannon reported that he has been attending recently meetings of the MPO Technical
Committee which deals with transportation matters. Recent discussions have included possible
enhanced mass transportation network involving a more elaborate bus system than they now
have. Those discussions will continue.
Mr. Craddock reported that the open houses are coming up soon on the Mountaintop Protection
proposal.
Mr. Strucko reported that the Fiscal Impact Advisory Committee meets tomorrow during the day.
He has been in touch with the membership and got on the agenda for discussion for at least the
beginnings of looking at adequacy of proffers in trying to measure that. He will have more to
discuss next month. However, the responses that he got back were quite favorably and they
thought that it was a worthwhile issue. So know that they are engaged in that.
Mr. Strucko reported that the School Long Range Planning Committee, which he was also on, did
not meet in July, but will meet in August. At that point the group will begin looking at the school's
CIP and do a facility assessment on the capacity of where we are. That is for elementary, middle
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and high schools. After they have their discussion he can give the Commission a clear picture to
how that group is viewing the school facility and the adequacy of it.
Ms. Joseph noted that she and Mr. Strucko were members of the Development Review Task
Force. The Development Review Task Force is finally getting to the point where they have
gathered up enough information about what might be wrong and what has gone wrong in the
process, and now they at the point of coming up with some solutions for this process. Everybody
has a fairly deep understanding of some of the things that have happened to different applicants.
It is a good committee that is comprised of people who are concerned about all different kinds of
issues. She will come back with additional information for the Commission. At one point the Task
Force was going to work on the 104 aspects that staff members look at for rezoning and special
use permits and try to put number values on them, but decided to leave that for now. So it may
come to the Commission at some point to look at it and try to value the aspects.
Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the Public:
Ms. Joseph invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda. There being none,
the meeting moved on to the next item.
Review of Board of Supervisors Meeting — July 5, 2006.
Mr. Cilimberg summarized the actions taken by the Board of Supervisors on July 5, 2006.
Consent Agenda:
Approval of Planning Commission Minutes — February 28, 2006.
Motion: Mr. Morris moved, Mr. Craddock seconded, to approve the consent agenda.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Item Requesting Deferral:
SP -2006-009 Birchwood Place (Sign #10)
PROPOSED: One three-story office building totaling 19,500 square feet and a one-story bank of 3,090
square feet on 3.66 acres.
ZONING CATEGORY/GENERAL USAGE: C-1 Commercial - administrative, professional office and
financial institution; EC Entrance Corridor overlay.
SECTION: 22.2.2(10) Special Use Permit, which allows for drive-in windows serving or associated with
permitted uses.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE: Crozet Community - CT -6, Urban Core and CT -1, Development
Area Preserve.
LOCATION: Tax Map Parcel 56A2-1-30, located on Three Notch'd Road (Rte. 240) approximately 0.17
miles east of its intersection with Crozet Avenue (Rte. 810).
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: Whitehall
CONCURRENT APPLICATION: SDP 2006-00029
STAFF: David Pennock
APPLICANT REQUESTS DEFERRAL — DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
Motion: Mr. Morris moved, Mr. Edgerton seconded, to approve the applicant's request for deferral of SP -
2006 -009. Birchwood Place, to August 8, 2006.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that SP -2006-009, Birchwood Place was deferred to August 8.
ZMA 2005-018 Wickham Pond — Phase II (Sign #7)
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PROPOSAL: Rezone 21.35 acres from RA - Rural Areas: agricultural, forestal, and fishery uses;
residential density (.05 unit/acre) to NMD Neighborhood Model District - residential (3 - 34 units/acre)
mixed with commercial, service and industrial uses. Maximum number proposed residential units:
Approximately 106. Approximately 16,000 sq. ft. commercial uses.
PROFFERS: Yes
EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Corridor General (CT4) - mixed residential
and commercial uses (net 4.5 units per acre for SFD, sfa & duplexes) (net 12 units per acre for
townhouses and apartments) (net 18 units per acre for mixed use). Urban Edge (CT3) - supports center
with predominately residential uses, especially single-family detached (net 3.5-4.5 units per acre) (net 6.5
units per acre if accessory apartments are added for 50% of the residential stock). Development Area
Reserve (CT2) and Preserve (CT1) - development area open space preserve or reserve with very low
residential density (net 1 unit per 20 acres).
LOCATION: Tax Map 56 Parcel 91. Between Route 240 and the C & O railroad. Approximately 2,200 feet
from intersection of Route 240 and Highlands Drive.
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: Yes
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: White Hall
STAFF: Claudette Grant
APPLICANT REQUESTS DEFERRAL TO JULY 18, 2006.
Motion: Mr. Morris moved, Mr. Edgerton seconded, to approve the applicant's request for deferral of
ZMA-2005-018, Wickham Pond — Phase II, to July 18, 2006.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA-2005-018, Wickham Pond — Phase II was deferred to July 18.
Deferred Item:
ZMA-2005-007 Haden Place (Signs #12,13)
PROPOSAL: Rezone 6.69 acres from R-2 Residential (2 units/acre) to NMD Neighborhood Model
District - residential (3 - 34 units/acre) mixed with commercial, service and industrial uses for 20 single
family homes and 14 town homes.
PROFFERS: Yes
EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Community of Crozet; CT -3 Urban Edge:
single family residential (net 3.5-6.5 units/acre) supporting uses such as religious institutions and schools
and other small-scale non-residential uses.
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: No
LOCATION: Between Haden (Rt. 1209) & Killdeer Lanes (Rt. 1215), south of Jarman's Gap Road.
TAX MAP/PARCEL: TM 55 Parcel 69 & TM 56 Parcel 9
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: White Hall
STAFF: Rebecca Ragsdale
DEFERRED FROM THE JUNE 27, 2006 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
Motion: Mr. Edgerton moved, Mr. Morris seconded, to approve the applicant's request for ZMA-2005-007,
Haden Place, if the applicant addresses the outstanding issues listed by staff and if the following changes
are made to the proffers:
o The affordable housing proffer shall be modified to conform to the County's Affordable
Housing Policy in the Comprehensive Plan.
o The recommended technical changes shall be made to the application plan, code of
development and proffers that staff has noted.
o All cash proffers offered by the applicant should be devoted to transportation improvements
in Crozet. The proffer language will be revised through coordination with County staff,
including the County Attorney, prior to the Board meeting.
o An interconnection shall be provided and illustrated on the application plan from the
proposed east/west connector road between Haden and Killdeer Lanes southward to
Summerford Lane in Ballard Field.
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The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA 2005-007, Haden Place, was approved.
Motion on Waivers:
Motion: Mr. Edgerton moved, Mr. Craddock seconded, to approve the applicant's waiver request for
critical slopes.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Motion: Mr. Edgerton moved, Mr. Morris seconded, to approve the applicant's request for the waiver of
the planting strip requirements around the street circling the community green at the end of Haden Place.
Mr. Kamptner asked staff whether they recommended that pedestrian crossings be provided from the
sidewalks on both sides of the community green as a condition of the approval.
Ms. Ragsdale felt that it could be handled outside of the waiver action. In working it out with the applicant
they noted that as well. But, the Commission could provide it as a condition to provide the pedestrian
connections to the amenity from the sidewalks.
Amended Motion: Mr. Edgerton moved, Mr. Morris seconded, to amend the motion to approve the
request for the waiver of the planting strip requirements around the street circling the community green at
the end of Haden Place with the following condition:
1. Pedestrian crossings shall be provided from the sidewalks on both sides of the community green.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that the two waivers were approved for ZMA 2005-007, Haden Place
Motion: Mr. Edgerton moved, Mr. Morris seconded, to approve the applicant's request for the waiver of
the private street request called Haden Place on the application plan.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that the waiver for the private street request was approved. She stated that ZMA-
2005-007, Haden Place will be heard by the Board of Supervisors on August 2 with a recommendation for
approval.
The Planning Commission took a ten minute break at 8:33 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 8:41
p.m.
Regular Item:
SDP 2005-083 Rio Truck Repair - Request for preliminary site plan approval to allow the construction of
an 8,000 square foot building to be used for truck repair on property described as Tax Map 61 Parcel 146.
The subject parcel contains approximately 1.428 acres and is zoned C1 (Commercial). This site is
located at the end of Rio School Lane approximately 370 feet east of its intersection with Rio Road (State
Route 631). This site is located in the Rio Magisterial District and is designated as Neighborhood Service
in Neighborhood 2. (Steve Tugwell)
Ms. Joseph said that since the applicant was able to work this out with their neighbors, the Planning
Commission does not need to take any action because no waivers will be needed.
Public Hearing Items:
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SP 2006-0011 Mosby Mountain Stream Crossing (Signs #14,22)
PROPOSED: Amendment to existing special use permit for fill in the floodplain to allow a culvert stream
crossing.
ZONING CATEGORY/GENERAL USAGE: R-1 Residential (1 unit/acre)
SECTION: 30.3.05.2.1 (2); 30.3.05.2.2 (3)
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Rural Area 4 - preserve and protect agricultural,
forestal, open space, and natural, historic and scenic resources/ density (0.5 unit/ acre)
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: Yes
LOCATION: Approximately 200 feet from the intersection of Mosby Mtn. Drive and Old Lynchburg Road
(Route 631)
TAX MAP/PARCEL: 90E -A0
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: Samuel Miller
STAFF: Tamara Ambler
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Strucko seconded, to approve SP -2006-0011, Mosby Mountain Stream
Crossing, with the conditions recommended by staff, as amended deleting item 1.
Mr. Kamptner said that would also trigger the need to amend condition 5, adding condition 7, and
modifying condition 6 as well.
Ms. Higgins said that there was no modification to condition 7.
Mr. Cilimberg said that there would have to be some wording changes throughout where the bridge or
box culvert is referred to. They would have to be making some adjustments in wording to reflect the fact
that this is just going to be a box culvert if that is what the Commission decides to recommend.
Ms. Higgins felt that if condition 1 is deleted, then in condition 5 just the first sentence comes out.
Mr. Cilimberg felt that staff could take care of that, which was something that the Commission did not
have to worry with. It is just that the Commission understands that those adjustments will be made.
Mr. Cilimberg said that there needs to be some modification in the sixth condition that the Commission
should be aware of and include in the motion so that when it gets to the Board it will be taken care of.
Ms. Ambler noted that basically all they need to do is say that the applicant needs to submit computations
showing no rise in the 100 -year floodplain because that is what our Code requires.
Amended Motion:
Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Strucko seconded, to amend the motion to revise the conditions as
recommended by staff as follows:
1. Albemarle County Community Development Department approval and VDOT approval of final grading
plans and box culvert and road plans and computations;
2. Albemarle County Community Development Department approval of an Erosion and Sediment Control
Plan to include stabilization of fill;
3. Albemarle County Community Development Department approval of mitigation plans for disturbance of
the stream buffer;
4. If a box culvert is utilized it must be cast in place or otherwise constructed to provide for countersinking
of one barrel of the culvert to provide for normal and low flows in a manner satisfactory to the
approved U.S. Army Corps of Engineers water quality permit.
5. The applicant must provide computations showing no rise in the 100 -year floodplain.
6. In an effort to minimize environmental degradation, no soil shall be removed from the stream to
compensate for any fill.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:1. (Mr. Craddock voted nay.)
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Ms. Joseph stated that SP -2006-011, Mosby Mountain Stream Crossing will be heard by the Board of
Supervisors on August 2 with a recommendation for approval.
ZMA 2006-001 Westhall Phase V (Signs #49,59,64)
PROPOSAL: Rezone 8.96 acres from R-1 Residential (1 unit/acre) and R-6 (6 units/acre) to PRD
Planned Residential District residential (3 - 34 units/acre). 36 single family detached units proposed at a
density of gross 4 units per acre.
PROFFERS: Yes
EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Neighborhood CT4 - mixed residential and
commercial uses (net 4.5 units per acre for Single family detached and attached units and duplexes; net
12 units per acre for townhouses and apartments; net 18 units per acre for mixed use). Neighborhood
CT5 - mixed residential and commercial uses (net 12 units per acre for all housing types; net 18 units per
acre for mixed use. CT 1 and CT 2 Preservation and Reservation Areas with net 1 unit per 20 acres.
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: No
LOCATION: Portion of Tax Map 56H Parcel A, located approximately 600 feet east of the end of Park
Street (SR 1204) in the Community of Crozet.
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: White Hall
STAFF: Elaine Echols
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved to approve ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, with the proffers offered.
There being no second, the motion failed.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Edgerton seconded that ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, be denied
because it does not meet the 15 percent affordable housing goal of the County.
Mr. Kamptner asked if the Commission wished to identify their specific concerns for the Board.
Ms. Higgins said that the Commission expressed its concerns
Mr. Edgerton requested a friendly amendment to the motion stating that the proffer for the improvement to
Eastern Avenue is not adequate with $45,000 for a 4.5 million dollar road. Mr. Edgerton said he is
concerned that there is no commitment in this rezoning for the location of Eastern Avenue from the
applicant who is an equity interest owner in that land. Mr. Edgerton said he would like the development to
show a commitment to the location of Eastern Avenue or the proffer for the greenway easement will be
absolutely worthless if Eastern Avenue gets put somewhere else.
Ms. Higgins said she believes that the location of Eastern Avenue is not going to change. She would not
agree to amend her motion. She said that Eastern Avenue is in the Master Plan and if the adjoining
property comes for review, Eastern Avenue is planned for that area.
Mr. Edgerton suggested that Ms. Higgins look at Western Avenue in the Master Plan and where it really
got built.
Ms. Higgins noted that Eastern Avenue is a different avenue than Western Avenue. She asked if the
proffer contribution for the $45,000 was in addition to the other improvements.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the applicant was also tripling its density, which, to him was not enough.
Ms. Higgins said that the staff report noted the concerns shared by the Commission. Therefore, she did
not think that needed to go into the motion.
Mr. Morris noted that affordable housing at 100% of the median household income was one major
concern.
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Mr. Strucko said that he would vote for a motion that included the concern for affordable housing.
However, he personally feels that there is an additional issue, which is the adequacy of the cash proffers
for the transportation network and Eastern Avenue.
Amended Motion:
Ms. Higgins amended the motion to say ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, be denied because it does
not meet the 15 percent affordable housing goal of the County, and further consideration needs to be
given for the cash contributions for the transportation, which was seconded by Mr. Edgerton.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V will be heard by the Board of Supervisors on
August 2 with a recommendation for approval.
Motion on Waivers:
1. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance for sidewalks on the private street.
2. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance to substitute an asphalt path as shown on the
application plan in the northern part of the site for sidewalks on both sides of the east -west street at
the northern part of the site.
3. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance for planting strips with the condition that for location (b)
described in this report, at least three feet of separation between the back of the curb and the path
shall be provided.
4. Sections 4.6.2 and 4.6.3.b. of the Zoning Ordinance to allow the setbacks shown on the application
plan to be used, rather than using the zoning ordinance's standard of measurement for front and rear
yards.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Morris seconded that waivers 1- 4 for ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase
V, be approved subject to the potential or eventual approval of the rezoning.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the four requested waivers must be legally tied to the plan shown. Mr. Edgerton
referred to the applicant's comment that the only way he could commit to proffering 6 units at 80% of the
median household income was with a redesigned plan. Since there isn't a redesigned plan in front of the
Commission, he could not vote in favor of the waivers. If the Commission had an approvable plan in front
of them, then he would have voted for the waivers.
The motion was defeated by a vote of 2:5. (Commissioners Edgerton, Cannon, Joseph, Strucko, and
Craddock voted nay.) (Commissioners Higgins and Morris voted aye.)
Ms. Joseph stated that the waivers were denied.
Ms. Echols said she would like to make the point that those waivers also are available during the
subdivision and site plan process. If the development does get approved, the opportunity to consider the
waivers does exist at a later date.
Ms. Higgins asked if the Commission needs to make a statement to go with the denial.
Mr. Cilimberg asked Mr. Kamptner if the vote to deny the waivers was appealable.
Mr. Kamptner noted that since this is a planned development everything is appealable.
Ms. Higgins stated that the reason it failed on the vote was that the Commission is recommending denial
of the plan based on the reasons stated previously.
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Mr. Cannon noted that Mr. Edgerton gave a persuasive argument and since the Commission denied the
proposed rezoning on the terms presented, it doesn't know and did not know what a final plan might look
like. Therefore, he felt the Commission was not in the position to act on the waivers.
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that the Commission has one more action to take on the very last sentence
after the waivers, which was not part of their action. It involves recommending approval of permission to
disturb open space in conjunction with Section 4.7.2 of the Zoning Ordinance as shown on the application
plan.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Morris seconded to approve permission to disturb open space in
conjunction with Section 4.7.2 of the Zoning Ordinance as shown on the application plan.
The motion was defeated by a vote of 2:5. (Commissioners Craddock, Strucko, Joseph, Cannon,
Edgerton voted nay.) (Commissioners Higgins and Morris voted aye.)
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA-2006-001, will be heard by the Board of Supervisors on August 2 with a
recommendation for denial.
Old Business:
Ms. Joseph asked if there was any old business.
Expedited Engineering Review (Mark Graham)
Mr. Graham reviewed the proposed expedited engineering review that was a pilot program that they were
trying. This is an optional pilot program. It is the applicant's choice on whether they want to do it. It is a
pilot program because this is something that staff does not know how it is going to work so they are going
to try it and see how it goes. But, what they are talking about doing is for engineering plans only that the
engineering staff in the County reviews associated with final site plans or final subdivisions that they will
consider an engineer certifying that they have gone through their calculations and verifies that it is correct
and consistent with the County Code requirements. If they provide the County with that assurance staff
will do a quick quality review of those to make sure everything looks okay and assuming everything looks
okay they will approve the plan right there. The important thing to note about this is it will only be used
with final plans and will not be used with preliminary plans or plats.
Glenn Brooks, Senior Engineer, was present to respond to the Commission's questions.
In general consensus, the Commission was supportive of the pilot program for expedited engineering
review.
There being no further old business, the meeting proceeded.
New Business:
Ms. Joseph asked if there was any new business.
There being no further new business, the meeting proceeded.
Adjournment:
With no further items, the meeting adjourned at 10:31 p.m. to the July 18, 2006 meeting.
V. Wayne Cilimberg, Secretary
(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon Claytor Taylor, Recording Secretary.)
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with some areas that could be widened on the shoulder and some drainage areas that could get
improved. They accept in their proffers the responsibility of making those improvements. Then, of course
there is always the Eastern Avenue Connection. When Eastern Avenue is built they will not have any
traffic issues whatsoever. They have made a cash proffer towards Eastern Avenue. Considering what
the Commission went through earlier tonight, Jarman's Road, it is a similar issue. They have provided
some money. The staff report indicated that it was a little bit low. If the Commission was willing to look at
the other capital improvements and they allocate that money towards the traffic improvements of Eastern
Avenue that is fine with us. They know that it is an important issue for Crozet. The proffers in general
they are offering $3,300 per unit. Ms. Echols was able to provide them a schematic of it in comparison of
what other proffers were in the area. He felt that they exceeded that average that they were expecting.
One thing that they did include Mr. Edgerton mentioned, which was the value of the trail. They have lost
a lot in trying to beef up the trails. He thought that the value in that was not considered. They feel that
their $3,300 per unit is adequate. Regarding the affordable housing, it is a difficult issue and they know
where the Commission came down on the last on Haden Place in their discussion. There are a couple of
issues of why they propose 100 percent. First of all they think that it is reflective of the Crozet community.
They think that there are a lot of people who hit that 80 to 100 percent gap, including someone on their
own staff who recently came in at 82 percent. When they provide the attached units, they really see that
there is some type of market between 80 percent for attached and 100 percent for detached units. There
was some gesture in the staff report that should be considered. They would urge the Commission to
consider that tonight. There is an overall issue of about 100 percent they can provide attached units. It is
pretty difficult at 80 percent for them to provided detached units. It really becomes a question for the
Commission. At 80 percent they can provide attached town houses. At 100 percent they can provide
detached units. They will allow them to discuss that to see what the Commission comes up with. If there
are any questions, they would be happy to answer them.
Ms. Joseph asked if they had ever considered if they had a two-story house or a house with a basement
that the whole is not finished and that is the way that they may have some affordable housing. She
suggested that possibly only one floor would be finished and then the owner could finish the second floor
or the basement.
Mr. Schooly said that it was something to consider and something that they propose to use. If the
Commission denies the application tonight based on them not moving from 100 percent, then they have
something to consider. If they drop down to the 80 percent on the recommendation assuming that they
could go to a detached unit, that would be acceptable if they had the option to go from detached to
attached between now and the Board of Supervisors. Then they could raise options similar to that in how
exactly they could provide some affordable housing at 80 percent in a detached model that they all
agreed was aesthetically and functionally better than the attached units.
Ms. Joseph asked if he was asking if the Commission decides that this project was different than the
other project they just looked at that or not different, then they wanted to do attached housing some
where.
Mr. Schooly said that the 80 percent that they feel like they would first like to do attached housing. They
would have a difficult time tonight saying that they could do 80 percent with detached units.
Ms. Higgins said she had a question from page 27 of Attachment B. Her understanding is that within the
100 percent it is not called affordable, but moderate in that the County has no involvement to provide any
buyer or anything like that. Since Ron White is present she would like him to respond to that. She felt that
the Commission needs to acknowledge that since if they go in this direction she did not think this proffer
works that way.
Mr. Edgerton requested to ask Mr. Schooly if what he was hearing is that if the Commission's decision is
to stick with the affordable housing policy that exists right now that this plan is out the window.
Mr. Schooly replied yes.
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Mr. Edgerton said he would have to move for denial. He did not think that the Commission could possibly
negotiate meeting the affordable housing regulations.
Ms. Joseph noted that there was a sign up list of other persons who wanted to speak. She invited
Barbara Westbrook to come forward and speak.
Barbara Westbrook said that basically she was concerned about the impact on the neighborhood streets.
There is only one outlet to get to Route 240, which is one lane wide and connects three roads being
Tabor Street, High Street and Park Road. All three roads are 20' wide with no sidewalks or room for bike
lanes. There are 271 homes in that 1 mile plus the proposed Westhall homes of another 132. There is a
possible 403 homes using this 1 mile stretch. When she talked to David Benish today he said that VDOT
uses the figure of 10 vehicle trips per day per single family dwelling. She felt that is a little high using 10
vehicle trips per day on this one mile stretch, not including Westhall, would be over 1,800 car trips per day
on this 1 mile stretch. She did a traffic count this morning for about 1 hour and 45 minutes on this 1 mile
stretch. It totaled 283 vehicles and almost 40 were construction trucks, which will only increase. Crozet
Park is in this section and that adds quite a bit of traffic when there are craft shows, swim meets, the
Fireman's Fourth of July Carnival and other similar events. She felt that could be a real problem for
safety when there is a lot of traffic for rescue squads. The bottom line is that she would ask that approval
be delayed until Eastern Avenue is constructed. So much money has been talked about. She would just
assume see all of the money go to Eastern Avenue because a lot of people in Crozet would like to see
this go ahead to alleviate so much of the traffic problem. She was taking this out of context, but she
agrees with staff in the report on page 13 where staff believes that $45,000 to be applied to Eastern
Avenue is a very small amount given the fact that the cost to construct the road is likely to be so much
greater. It would appear that the only other option available would be to postpone the approval of this
rezoning until the street network that allows traffic to actually use Eastern Avenue is done.
Cathy Mattigan reiterated what Ms. Westbrook had said about there only being one road going in and out,
the construction vehicles, and other items like that. The infrastructure is a big major concern. The other
concern, which is really minor in the whole aspect, is referred to on page 8. It basically says under
interconnection streets and transportation networks to provide the opportunity for future connections to
Jamestown Court. She lives on Jamestown Court and that area she has always been led to believe by
both the County and in conversations with the developer when they put the sewage easement on their
property was that this was suppose to be an emergency road. It was suppose to be gravel and have a
chain length fence across it. Since they started construction it is now a paved road with two little areas
where you can basically turn your car back. The only way that this road is shut off is that there are cones
that are at the end where it connects to Jamestown Court. Traffic is going in and out. People being
people want to explore and just move the cones. She has some concerns about that statement being a
future connection when she has been led to believe as well as her neighbors that this was to be an
emergency access only.
There being no further public comment, Ms. Joseph closed the public hearing to bring the matter before
the Commission.
Ms. Higgins asked if someone could explain the Jamestown Road.
Ms. Echols asked that the Commission look at page 24 of the staff report on the far right hand there is a
cul-de-sac. This cul-de-sac has been in existence for a while. This is an older subdivision. When
Westhall Phase I came in the Subdivision Ordinance required an interconnection to the east. She noted
that she might not have all of the facts correct and she knew there were some people in the audience that
could correct her if she was wrong on this one. The applicant purchased or acquired the adjoining
property or land from Jamestown Court in order to make a connection from Jamestown Court to Westhall
Drive. That was not a very poplar decision in the neighborhood for the reasons that the Commission can
see. Ms. Mattigan's house is right next to where that connection would be. She thought that there were
also covenants which restrict that connection from actually happening. If it ever does happy, she thought
that there was a covenant restriction that has to be dealt with in some form or fashion. But, the applicant
for Westhall I she believed provided the connection that he could and he wanted to use this for
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prepared yet. The applicant has not even prepared the alternative and they are being asked to approve
it. He was uncomfortable taking that position.
Mr. Cannon said that the Commission could disapprove this because it does not meet current policies for
affordable housing. That appears to be adequate grounds for disapproval. He did not see discussing the
rest of the project on some hypothetical as to what it may or may not look like when they come in for final
approval.
Ms. Joseph asked if all of the Commissioners want to discuss all of the other issues that surround this.
Ms. Higgins said she did not want it going to the Board without the Commission discussing all of the
issues.
Mr. Strucko said that it was important to have the other issues.
Mr. Craddock agreed with Mr. Edgerton.
Mr. Morris said that he could support this motion if the portions relating to affordable housing are brought
in line with the County policy. He said that he was okay with everything else.
Ms. Higgins said that she agrees with Mr. Morris and Mr. Edgerton.
Mr. Strucko felt that the Commission needs to discuss the other proffers, the traffic mitigation and the
proffer for the Eastern Avenue to determine whether or not that is adequate.
Mr. Edgerton said that the other cash proffers are not adequate.
Mr. Strucko agreed.
Ms. Joseph said that the cash proffer is not adequate.
Mr. Cannon said that he did not know because maybe they need to consider something else. When it is
defective on its face he did not want to try to fine tune the other aspects of the proposal particular.
Mr. Morris said that they don't have a proffer policy to guide us.
Ms. Higgins noted that the applicant had done a better job on the trail head by giving the tot lot up and
separating the two.
Mr. Edgerton said that he really liked the plan and was prepared to approve it, but if it involves altering
their affordable housing policy and that is the ultimatum they have been given, and then he could not
support it.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved to approve ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, with the proffers offered.
There being no second, the motion failed.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Edgerton seconded that ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, be denied
because it does not meet the 15 percent affordable housing goal of the County.
Mr. Kamptner asked if the Commission wished to identify their specific concerns for the Board.
Ms. Higgins said that the Commission expressed its concerns
Mr. Edgerton requested a friendly amendment to the motion stating that the proffer for the improvement to
Eastern Avenue is not adequate with $45,000 for a 4.5 million dollar road. He said is concerned that
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construction purposes. In any case she believed they worked out with Ms. Mattigan that would not be
used for the permanent road. But, it would be for emergency access. What staff was trying to point out in
this system was that there are multiple connection points and not to say this was being opened up with
this development. It is in Westhall Phase I and it is not even part of the rezoning. It is sort of illustrating
where the connections are. There are no proposals to do anything different with this particular rezoning.
Ms. Higgins said that was a good explanation. But are these roads going to interconnect with this
rezoning and is that going to be a permanent connection?
Ms. Joseph replied no it is not connected to this rezoning.
Mr. Edgerton said that he did not think the Commission could possibly consider any rezoning when they
don't know what the plan looks like. At the work session they were brought that plan with no units shown.
In response to their frustration about not knowing how that density might be the applicant brought this
plan. But, now they were being told that unless they agree to alter the proposed current affordable
housing plan they would not be seeing this. They had a lengthy discussion about that earlier this
evening. With that in mind he did not think the Commission could possibly approve what is being asked
for now.
Ms. Higgins noted that if the Commission denies the request they have to give a reason. She asked if it
was just for that one reason.
Mr. Edgerton said that the reason he would give was that the Commission has not been shown a plan of
what is being proposed. He asked how the Commission could approve a rezoning without a plan.
Ms. Higgins said that if the Commission denies the rezoning because it does not meet the affordable
housing requirement or goal for the County, the applicant said that if he had to satisfy that then that area
there would change. But, this is the plan before us.
Mr. Edgerton said that the applicant did not say that. The applicant said that this plan would be out of the
window.
Ms. Higgins said that the applicant said that the attached units could not be accomplished.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the applicant did not point to the units.
Ms. Higgins requested that they ask the applicant to explain what he meant by that statement so the
Commission could get this into a very clear and concise package of what would change.
Mr. Schooly said that their position is tonight that they have submitted a plan and a proffer of 100 percent
of AMI, which includes this.
Ms. Higgins said that if the Commission denies this plan because it does not meet the affordable housing,
then what he is saying is that he cannot just make those affordable and it would change the plan.
Mr. Schooly said that the entire plan would stay the same at 80 percent except for that. That will make it
clear on what they are trying to accomplish.
Ms. Higgins said that if the six small blocks there represent what would be the affordable housing chunk
and they were saying that if it was not the 80 percent median income they were going to recommend
denial. But, the Commission was okay with all the other issues. She did not want to lose the whole
evening and just stop at that because what is the whole agenda here.
Mr. Edgerton said that the agenda was to try to do some good planning here. He noted that they require
rezonings to be specific. They were negotiating with a developer over a plan that he has not even
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there is no commitment in this rezoning for the location of Eastern Avenue from the applicant who is an
equity interest owner in that land. Mr. Edgerton said he would like the development to show a
commitment to the location of Eastern Avenue or the proffer for the greenway easement will be absolutely
worthless if Eastern Avenue gets put somewhere else.
Ms. Higgins said she believes that the location of Eastern Avenue is not going to change. She would not
agree to amend her motion. She said that Eastern Avenue is in the Master Plan and if the adjoining
property comes for review, Eastern Avenue is planned for that area.
Mr. Edgerton suggested that Ms. Higgins look at Western Avenue in the Master Plan and where it really
got built.
Ms. Higgins noted that Eastern Avenue is a different avenue than Western Avenue. She asked if the
proffer contribution for the $45,000 was in addition to the other improvements.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the applicant was also tripling its density, which, to him was not enough.
Ms. Higgins said that the staff report noted the concerns shared by the Commission. Therefore, she did
not think that needed to go into the motion.
Mr. Morris noted that affordable housing at 100% of the median household income was one major
concern.
Mr. Strucko said that he would vote for a motion that included the concern for affordable housing.
However, he personally feels that there is an additional issue, which is the adequacy of the cash proffers
for the transportation network and Eastern Avenue.
Amended Motion:
Ms. Higgins amended the motion to say ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, be denied because it does
not meet the 15 percent affordable housing goal of the County, and further consideration needs to be
given for the cash contributions for the transportation, which was seconded by Mr. Edgerton.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V will be heard by the Board of Supervisors on
August 2 with a recommendation for denial.
Motion on Waivers:
1. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance for sidewalks on the private street.
2. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance to substitute an asphalt path as shown on the
application plan in the northern part of the site for sidewalks on both sides of the east-west street at
the northern part of the site.
3. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance for planting strips with the condition that for location (b)
described in this report, at least three feet of separation between the back of the curb and the path
shall be provided.
4. Sections 4.6.2 and 4.6.3.b. of the Zoning Ordinance to allow the setbacks shown on the application
plan to be used, rather than using the zoning ordinance's standard of measurement for front and rear
yards.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Morris seconded that waivers 1- 4 for ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase
V, be approved subject to the potential or eventual approval of the rezoning.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the four requested waivers must be legally tied to the plan shown. Mr. Edgerton
referred to the applicant's comment that the only way he could commit to proffering 6 units at 80% of the
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median household income was with a redesigned plan. Since there isn't a redesigned plan in front of the
Commission, he could not vote in favor of the waivers. If the Commission had an approvable plan in front
of them, then he would have voted for the waivers.
The motion was defeated by a vote of 2:5. (Commissioners Edgerton, Cannon, Joseph, Strucko, and
Craddock voted nay.) (Commissioners Higgins and Morris voted aye.)
Ms. Joseph stated that the waivers were denied.
Ms. Echols said she would like to make the point that those waivers also are available during the
subdivision and site plan process. If the development does get approved, the opportunity to consider the
waivers does exist at a later date.
Ms. Higgins asked if the Commission needs to make a statement to go with the denial.
Mr. Cilimberg asked Mr. Kamptner if the vote to deny the waivers was appeal able.
Mr. Kamptner noted that since this is a planned development everything is appeal able.
Ms. Higgins stated that the reason it failed on the vote was that the Commission is recommending denial
of the plan based on the reasons stated previously.
Mr. Cannon noted that Mr. Edgerton gave a persuasive argument and since the Commission denied the
proposed rezoning on the terms presented, it doesn't know and did not know what a final plan might look
like. Therefore, he felt the Commission was not in the position to act on the waivers.
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that the Commission has one more action to take on the very last sentence
after the waivers, which was not part of their action. It involves recommending approval of permission to
disturb open space in conjunction with Section 4.7.2 of the Zoning Ordinance as shown on the application
plan.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Morris seconded to approve permission to disturb open space in
conjunction with Section 4.7.2 of the Zoning Ordinance as shown on the application plan.
The motion was defeated by a vote of 2:5. (Commissioners Craddock, Strucko, Joseph, Cannon,
Edgerton voted nay.) (Commissioners Higgins and Morris voted aye.)
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA-2006-001 will be heard by the Board of Supervisors on August 2 with a
recommendation for denial.
(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon Taylor, Recording Secretary.)
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modifying condition 6 as well.
Ms. Higgins said that there was no modification to condition 7.
Mr. Cilimberg said that there would have to be some wording changes throughout where the bridge or
box culvert is referred to. They would have to be making some adjustments in wording to reflect the fact
that this is just going to be a box culvert if that is what the Commission decides to recommend.
Ms. Higgins felt that if condition 1 is deleted, then in condition 5 just the first sentence comes out.
Mr. Cilimberg felt that staff could take care of that, which was something that the Commission did not
have to worry with. It is just that the Commission understands that those adjustments will be made. He
noted that there needs to be some modification in the sixth condition that the Commission should be
aware of and include in the motion so that when it gets to the Board it will be taken care of.
Ms. Ambler noted that basically all they need to do is say that the applicant needs to submit computations
showing no rise in the 100-year floodplain because that is what our Code requires.
Amended Motion:
Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Strucko seconded, to amend the motion to revise the conditions as
recommended by staff as follows:
1. Albemarle County Community Development Department approval and VDOT approval of final grading
plans and box culvert and road plans and computations;
2. Albemarle County Community Development Department approval of an Erosion and Sediment Control
Plan to include stabilization of fill;
3. Albemarle County Community Development Department approval of mitigation plans for disturbance of
the stream buffer;
4. If a box culvert is utilized it must be cast in place or otherwise constructed to provide for countersinking
of one barrel of the culvert to provide for normal and low flows in a manner satisfactory to the
approved U.S. Army Corps of Engineers water quality permit.
5. The applicant must provide computations showing no rise in the 100-year floodplain.
6. In an effort to minimize environmental degradation, no soil shall be removed from the stream to
compensate for any fill.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:1. (Mr. Craddock voted nay.)
Ms. Joseph stated that SP-2006-011, Mosby Mountain Stream Crossing will be heard by the Board of
Supervisors on August 2 with a recommendation for approval.
ZMA 2006-001 Westhall Phase V (Signs#49,59,64)
PROPOSAL: Rezone 8.96 acres from R-1 Residential (1 unit/acre) and R-6 (6 units/acre) to PRD
Planned Residential District residential (3 - 34 units/acre). 36 single family detached units proposed at a
density of gross 4 units per acre.
PROFFERS: Yes
EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Neighborhood CT4 - mixed residential and
commercial uses (net 4.5 units per acre for Single family detached and attached units and duplexes; net
12 units per acre for townhouses and apartments; net 18 units per acre for mixed use). Neighborhood
CT5 - mixed residential and commercial uses (net 12 units per acre for all housing types; net 18 units per
acre for mixed use. CT 1 and CT 2 Preservation and Reservation Areas with net 1 unit per 20 acres.
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: No
LOCATION: Portion of Tax Map 56H Parcel A, located approximately 600 feet east of the end of Park
Street (SR 1204) in the Community of Crozet.
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: White Hall
STAFF: Elaine Echols
Ms. Echols summarized the staff report. Since the Commission has read the staff report and are familiar
with this area of Crozet she would briefly remind the Commission of where they were the last time they
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looked at this. This is a piece of property that is at the end of Park Road. It is 8.9 acres. It is with 36
single family detached units. The Commission looked at this with ideas about layout and design, density,
impacts, about affordable housing and gave staff and the applicant some guidance. The applicant has
made all of the changes that were requested with one exception, which is in regards to the affordable
housing proffer. The Commission has already gone through something similar to that tonight. The
Commission had asked questions about the greenway system. In the packet staff included a greenway
map, which shows the context of the easement on the adjoining property that would follow along the
Eastern Avenue. The applicant has proffered that to be a temporary access easement on that general
property. Staff has looked at this and found that there are some minor changes that need to take place in
the proffers and the application plan based on what they reviewed for the staff report. Staff has been
working with the applicant on those things. But, the really big issue here is whether or not the affordable
housing proposed is acceptable. If there are questions, she would be happy to answer them.
Mr. Edgerton said that if he read the staff report correctly the applicant is offering the easement or land,
but is not building the trail.
Ms. Echols noted that Dan Mahone, of Parks, wants to build the trail and has volunteered to do so. Mr.
Mahone asked that the applicant just give the right of way and the County will build the trail.
Mr. Edgerton asked if Mr. Mahone was comfortable with what was being proposed, and Ms. Echols
replied yes.
Mr. Edgerton asked if Eastern Avenue does go through would a sidewalk take its place.
Ms. Echols said that was correct. It is envisioned right now because of the green strip that on that side of
the road it would be more of a sort of park type setting with a meandering asphalt path. It will probably
have to come back to the Commission for a waiver, but that is the concept. That is why when they
provided the 20' for the buffer they attached that to the green space and adjacent to the right of way so
that they would have the opportunity to make sure that screening is maintained and they will disturb as
little as they can in the back. When the right of way goes through they would have given us the 20' to the
backs of the lot. Therefore, staff could work with what they have gotten. Staff feels that is an acceptable
arrangement.
Ms. Joseph said that there is a note on one of the plans that talks about the County is responsible for the
maintenance of the 20' path. She asked if that was what it was all about.
Ms. Echols replied yes, because the green space is actually connected at the backs of those lots. So
they are saying that the County is responsible for that because the applicant would be giving that to the
County.
Mr. Edgerton said that on page 12, middle of the paragraph the staff report talks about cash proffers. The
applicant is going to cash proffer Eastern Avenue for$1,500 per market rate unit cash for capital
improvements. Schools would be an obvious item. It says with $3,000 for a pedestrian bridge an
estimate of the value of the greenway trail on the property the total value of the cash proffer is around
$100,000. What value did staff put on the greenway trail?
Ms. Echols said that it was not the trail itself, but it is for the temporary access easement. Staff could
have done this in a better way. But, she took the assessed value of that property off of the County's
maps and took that area and multiplied it by the rate. It is not totally sophisticated and it is certainly open.
It is not$100,000 for the greenway trail. That is the difference between the $75,000 plus the$3,000 and
$7,500.
There being no further questions for staff, Ms. Joseph opened the public hearing and invited the applicant
to address the Commission.
Chris Schooly, of Stonehaus Development, said that last time they met there was some discussion about
what exactly they were building. He passed out several renderings. The first set of colored renderings is
actually images of houses that they will be building in the first 4 phases of Westhall. Those 4 houses
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along with other will be the 30 market rate units that they will be building in this section. The last 3 black
and whites are 3 of the 4 proposed versions of houses that they would be doing for cottages for
affordable housing units. As the Commission can remember from the last time they met he felt that they
could all agree that what they proposed for cottages was acceptable. They were providing an attached
unit and providing yard, which may not be the biggest yard in the world. But, for a gardener it will be a
large enough space, which will be private. They also discussed relegated parking. They would be
providing at least 2 parking spaces behind the face of the building, but it may be in the garage or with a
driveway. This would include the affordable housing units. All of the parking would be relegated behind
the face of the building. In reference to the expansion of the tot lot, they agreed with the Commission that
there needed to be some delineation between the storm water management pond and the tot lot due to
their closeness. What they did to address that was to take one lot out and add it to the tot lot. Then they
provided a gracious trail head for the entire greenway system. That is something that they have always
talked about in Crozet about provide interconnectivity to this. They provided five parking spaces,
benches at the picnic area and the tot lot. The storm water management pond itself would be mobile.
This is not something that is going to need a fence because it was going to be on just a grassy area on
dry days. It is a place to play Frisbee. They are trying to open this up and create a trail head that meets
the community standards. Traffic was also a big issue last time. The staff report acknowledges that this
is an acceptable level of service on Park Road and Tabor Street. Last time they discussed Park Road
style improvements. They met with County staff and walked the section to decide how they could make
Park Road safer for the traffic that they would be implementing, but at the same time not losing the traffic
calm feel of Park Road that they all acknowledge that is something that they want to save. They came up
with some areas that could be widened on the shoulder and some drainage areas that could get
improved. They accept in their proffers the responsibility of making those improvements. Then, of course
there is always the Eastern Avenue Connection. When Eastern Avenue is built they will not have any
traffic issues whatsoever. They have made a cash proffer towards Eastern Avenue. Considering what
the Commission went through earlier tonight, Jarman's Road, it is a similar issue. They have provided
some money. The staff report indicated that it was a little bit low. If the Commission was willing to look at
the other capital improvements and they allocate that money towards the traffic improvements of Eastern
Avenue that is fine with us. They know that it is an important issue for Crozet. The proffers in general
they are offering $3,300 per unit. Ms. Echols was able to provide them a schematic of it in comparison of
what other proffers were in the area. He felt that they exceeded that average that they were expecting.
One thing that they did include Mr. Edgerton mentioned, which was the value of the trail. They have lost
a lot in trying to beef up the trails. He thought that the value in that was not considered. They feel that
their $3,300 per unit is adequate. Regarding the affordable housing, it is a difficult issue and they know
where the Commission came down on the last on Haden Place in their discussion. There are a couple of
issues of why they propose 100 percent. First of all they think that it is reflective of the Crozet community.
They think that there are a lot of people who hit that 80 to 100 percent gap, including someone on their
own staff who recently came in at 82 percent. When they provide the attached units, they really see that
there is some type of market between 80 percent for attached and 100 percent for detached units. There
was some gesture in the staff report that should be considered. They would urge the Commission to
consider that tonight. There is an overall issue of about 100 percent they can provide attached units. It is
pretty difficult at 80 percent for them to provided detached units. It really becomes a question for the
Commission. At 80 percent they can provide attached town houses. At 100 percent they can provide
detached units. They will allow them to discuss that to see what the Commission comes up with. If there
are any questions, they would be happy to answer them.
Ms. Joseph asked if they had ever considered if they had a two-story house or a house with a basement
that the whole is not finished and that is the way that they may have some affordable housing. She
suggested that possibly only one floor would be finished and then the owner could finish the second floor
or the basement.
Mr. Schooly said that it was something to consider and something that they propose to use. If the
Commission denies the application tonight based on them not moving from 100 percent, then they have
something to consider. If they drop down to the 80 percent on the recommendation assuming that they
could go to a detached unit, that would be acceptable if they had the option to go from detached to
attached between now and the Board of Supervisors. Then they could raise options similar to that in how
exactly they could provide some affordable housing at 80 percent in a detached model that they all
agreed was aesthetically and functionally better than the attached units.
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Ms. Joseph asked if he was asking if the Commission decides that this project was different than the
other project they just looked at that or not different, then they wanted to do attached housing some
where.
Mr. Schooly said that the 80 percent that they feel like they would first like to do attached housing. They
would have a difficult time tonight saying that they could do 80 percent with detached units.
Ms. Higgins said she had a question from page 27 of Attachment B. Her understanding is that within the
100 percent it is not called affordable, but moderate in that the County has no involvement to provide any
buyer or anything like that. Since Ron White is present she would like him to respond to that. She felt that
the Commission needs to acknowledge that since if they go in this direction she did not think this proffer
works that way.
Mr. Edgerton requested to ask Mr. Schooly if what he was hearing is that if the Commission's decision is
to stick with the affordable housing policy that exists right now that this plan is out the window.
Mr. Schooly replied yes.
Mr. Edgerton said he would have to move for denial. He did not think that the Commission could possibly
negotiate meeting the affordable housing regulations.
Ms. Joseph noted that there was a sign up list of other persons who wanted to speak. She invited
Barbara Westbrook to come forward and speak.
Barbara Westbrook said that basically she was concerned about the impact on the neighborhood streets.
There is only one outlet to get to Route 240, which is one lane wide and connects three roads being
Tabor Street, High Street and Park Road. All three roads are 20' wide with no sidewalks or room for bike
lanes. There are 271 homes in that 1 mile plus the proposed Westhall homes of another 132. There is a
possible 403 homes using this 1 mile stretch. When she talked to David Benish today he said that VDOT
uses the figure of 10 vehicle trips per day per single family dwelling. She felt that is a little high using 10
vehicle trips per day on this one mile stretch, not including Westhall, would be over 1,800 car trips per day
on this 1 mile stretch. She did a traffic count this morning for about 1 hour and 45 minutes on this 1 mile
stretch. It totaled 283 vehicles and almost 40 were construction trucks, which will only increase. Crozet
Park is in this section and that adds quite a bit of traffic when there are craft shows, swim meets, the
Fireman's Fourth of July Carnival and other similar events. She felt that could be a real problem for
safety when there is a lot of traffic for rescue squads. The bottom line is that she would ask that approval
be delayed until Eastern Avenue is constructed. So much money has been talked about. She would just
assume see all of the money go to Eastern Avenue because a lot of people in Crozet would like to see
this go ahead to alleviate so much of the traffic problem. She was taking this out of context, but she
agrees with staff in the report on page 13 where staff believes that $45,000 to be applied to Eastern
Avenue is a very small amount given the fact that the cost to construct the road is likely to be so much
greater. It would appear that the only other option available would be to postpone the approval of this
rezoning until the street network that allows traffic to actually use Eastern Avenue is done.
Cathy Mattigan reiterated what Ms. Westbrook had said about there only being one road going in and out,
the construction vehicles, and other items like that. The infrastructure is a big major concern. The other
concern, which is really minor in the whole aspect, is referred to on page 8. It basically says under
interconnection streets and transportation networks to provide the opportunity for future connections to
Jamestown Court. She lives on Jamestown Court and that area she has always been led to believe by
both the County and in conversations with the developer when they put the sewage easement on their
property was that this was suppose to be an emergency road. It was suppose to be gravel and have a
chain link fence across it. Since they started construction it is now a paved road with two little areas
where you can basically turn your car back. The only way that this road is shut off is that there are cones
that are at the end where it connects to Jamestown Court. Traffic is going in and out. People being
people want to explore and just move the cones. She has some concerns about that statement being a
future connection when she has been led to believe as well as her neighbors that this was to be an
emergency access only.
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There being no further public comment, Ms. Joseph closed the public hearing to bring the matter before
the Commission.
Ms. Higgins asked if someone could explain the Jamestown Road.
Ms. Echols asked that the Commission look at page 24 of the staff report on the far right hand there is a
cul-de-sac. This cul-de-sac has been in existence for a while. This is an older subdivision. When
Westhall Phase I came in the Subdivision Ordinance required an interconnection to the east. She noted
that she might not have all of the facts correct and she knew there were some people in the audience that
could correct her if she was wrong on this one. The applicant purchased or acquired the adjoining
property or land from Jamestown Court in order to make a connection from Jamestown Court to Westhall
Drive. That was not a very poplar decision in the neighborhood for the reasons that the Commission can
see. Ms. Mattigan's house is right next to where that connection would be. She thought that there were
also covenants which restrict that connection from actually happening. If it ever does happy, she thought
that there was a covenant restriction that has to be dealt with in some form or fashion. But, the applicant
for Westhall I she believed provided the connection that he could and he wanted to use this for
construction purposes. In any case she believed they worked out with Ms. Mattigan that would not be
used for the permanent road. But, it would be for emergency access. What staff was trying to point out in
this system was that there are multiple connection points and not to say this was being opened up with
this development. It is in Westhall Phase I and it is not even part of the rezoning. It is sort of illustrating
where the connections are. There are no proposals to do anything different with this particular rezoning.
Ms. Higgins said that was a good explanation. But are these roads going to interconnect with this
rezoning and is that going to be a permanent connection?
Ms. Joseph replied no it is not connected to this rezoning.
Mr. Edgerton said that he did not think the Commission could possibly consider any rezoning when they
don't know what the plan looks like. At the work session they were brought that plan with no units shown.
In response to their frustration about not knowing how that density might be the applicant brought this
plan. But, now they were being told that unless they agree to alter the proposed current affordable
housing plan they would not be seeing this. They had a lengthy discussion about that earlier this
evening. With that in mind he did not think the Commission could possibly approve what is being asked
for now.
Ms. Higgins noted that if the Commission denies the request they have to give a reason. She asked if it
was just for that one reason.
Mr. Edgerton said that the reason he would give was that the Commission has not been shown a plan of
what is being proposed. He asked how the Commission could approve a rezoning without a plan.
Ms. Higgins said that if the Commission denies the rezoning because it does not meet the affordable
housing requirement or goal for the County, the applicant said that if he had to satisfy that then that area
there would change. But, this is the plan before us.
Mr. Edgerton said that the applicant did not say that. The applicant said that this plan would be out of the
window.
Ms. Higgins said that the applicant said that the attached units could not be accomplished.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the applicant did not point to the units.
Ms. Higgins requested that they ask the applicant to explain what he meant by that statement so the
Commission could get this into a very clear and concise package of what would change.
Mr. Schooly said that their position is tonight that they have submitted a plan and a proffer of 100 percent
of AMI, which includes this.
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Ms. Higgins said that if the Commission denies this plan because it does not meet the affordable housing,
then what he is saying is that he cannot just make those affordable and it would change the plan.
Mr. Schooly said that the entire plan would stay the same at 80 percent except for that. That will make it
clear on what they are trying to accomplish.
Ms. Higgins said that if the six small blocks there represent what would be the affordable housing chunk
and they were saying that if it was not the 80 percent median income they were going to recommend
denial. But, the Commission was okay with all the other issues. She did not want to lose the whole
evening and just stop at that because that is the whole agenda.
Mr. Edgerton said that the agenda was to try to do some good planning here. He noted that they require
rezonings to be specific. They were negotiating with a developer over a plan that he has not even
prepared yet. The applicant has not even prepared the alternative and they are being asked to approve
it. He was uncomfortable taking that position.
Mr. Cannon said that the Commission could disapprove this because it does not meet current policies for
affordable housing. That appears to be adequate grounds for disapproval. He did not see discussing the
rest of the project on some hypothetical as to what it may or may not look like when they come in for final
approval.
Ms. Joseph asked if all of the Commissioners want to discuss all of the other issues that surround this.
Ms. Higgins said she did not want it going to the Board without the Commission discussing all of the
issues.
Mr. Strucko said that it was important to have the other issues.
Mr. Craddock agreed with Mr. Edgerton.
Mr. Morris said that he could support this motion if the portions relating to affordable housing are brought
in line with the County policy. He said that he was okay with everything else.
Ms. Higgins said that she agrees with Mr. Morris and Mr. Edgerton.
Mr. Strucko felt that the Commission needs to discuss the other proffers, the traffic mitigation and the
proffer for the Eastern Avenue to determine whether or not that is adequate.
Mr. Edgerton said that the other cash proffers are not adequate.
Mr. Strucko agreed.
Ms. Joseph said that the cash proffer is not adequate.
Mr. Cannon said that he did not know because maybe they need to consider something else. When it is
defective on its face he did not want to try to fine tune the other aspects of the proposal particular.
Mr. Morris said that they don't have a proffer policy to guide us.
Ms. Higgins noted that the applicant had done a better job on the trail head by giving the tot lot up and
separating the two.
Mr. Edgerton said that he really liked the plan and was prepared to approve it, but if it involves altering
their affordable housing policy and that is the ultimatum they have been given, and then he could not
support it.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved to approve ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, with the proffers offered.
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There being no second, the motion failed.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Edgerton seconded that ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, be denied
because it does not meet the 15 percent affordable housing goal of the County.
Mr. Kamptner asked if the Commission wished to identify their specific concerns for the Board.
Ms. Higgins said that the Commission expressed its concerns
Mr. Edgerton requested a friendly amendment to the motion stating that the proffer for the improvement to
Eastern Avenue is not adequate with $45,000 for a 4.5 million dollar road. He said is concerned that
there is no commitment in this rezoning for the location of Eastern Avenue from the applicant who is an
equity interest owner in that land. Mr. Edgerton said he would like the development to show a
commitment to the location of Eastern Avenue or the proffer for the greenway easement will be absolutely
worthless if Eastern Avenue gets put somewhere else.
Ms. Higgins said she believes that the location of Eastern Avenue is not going to change. She would not
agree to amend her motion. She said that Eastern Avenue is in the Master Plan and if the adjoining
property comes for review, Eastern Avenue is planned for that area.
Mr. Edgerton suggested that Ms. Higgins look at Western Avenue in the Master Plan and where it really
got built.
Ms. Higgins noted that Eastern Avenue is a different avenue than Western Avenue. She asked if the
proffer contribution for the $45,000 was in addition to the other improvements.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the applicant was also tripling its density, which, to him was not enough.
Ms. Higgins said that the staff report noted the concerns shared by the Commission. Therefore, she did
not think that needed to go into the motion.
Mr. Morris noted that affordable housing at 100% of the median household income was one major
concern.
Mr. Strucko said that he would vote for a motion that included the concern for affordable housing.
However, he personally feels that there is an additional issue, which is the adequacy of the cash proffers
for the transportation network and Eastern Avenue.
Amended Motion:
Ms. Higgins amended the motion to say ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V, be denied because it does
not meet the 15 percent affordable housing goal of the County, and further consideration needs to be
given for the cash contributions for the transportation, which was seconded by Mr. Edgerton.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase V will be heard by the Board of Supervisors on
August 2 with a recommendation for denial.
Motion on Waivers:
1. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance for sidewalks on the private street.
2. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance to substitute an asphalt path as shown on the
application plan in the northern part of the site for sidewalks on both sides of the east-west street at
the northern part of the site.
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3. Section 14-422 of the Subdivision Ordinance for planting strips with the condition that for location (b)
described in this report, at least three feet of separation between the back of the curb and the path
shall be provided.
4. Sections 4.6.2 and 4.6.3.b. of the Zoning Ordinance to allow the setbacks shown on the application
plan to be used, rather than using the zoning ordinance's standard of measurement for front and rear
yards.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Morris seconded that waivers 1- 4 for ZMA-2006-001, Westhall Phase
V, be approved subject to the potential or eventual approval of the rezoning.
Mr. Edgerton noted that the four requested waivers must be legally tied to the plan shown. Mr. Edgerton
referred to the applicant's comment that the only way he could commit to proffering 6 units at 80% of the
median household income was with a redesigned plan. Since there isn't a redesigned plan in front of the
Commission, he could not vote in favor of the waivers. If the Commission had an approvable plan in front
of them, then he would have voted for the waivers.
The motion was defeated by a vote of 2:5. (Commissioners Edgerton, Cannon, Joseph, Strucko, and
Craddock voted nay.) (Commissioners Higgins and Morris voted aye.)
Ms. Joseph stated that the waivers were denied.
Ms. Echols said she would like to make the point that those waivers also are available during the
subdivision and site plan process. If the development does get approved, the opportunity to consider the
waivers does exist at a later date.
Ms. Higgins asked if the Commission needs to make a statement to go with the denial.
Mr. Cilimberg asked Mr. Kamptner if the vote to deny the waivers was appeal able.
Mr. Kamptner noted that since this is a planned development everything is appealable.
Ms. Higgins stated that the reason it failed on the vote was that the Commission is recommending denial
of the plan based on the reasons stated previously.
Mr. Cannon noted that Mr. Edgerton gave a persuasive argument and since the Commission denied the
proposed rezoning on the terms presented, it doesn't know and did not know what a final plan might look
like. Therefore, he felt the Commission was not in the position to act on the waivers.
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that the Commission has one more action to take on the very last sentence
after the waivers, which was not part of their action. It involves recommending approval of permission to
disturb open space in conjunction with Section 4.7.2 of the Zoning Ordinance as shown on the application
plan.
Motion: Ms. Higgins moved, Mr. Morris seconded to approve permission to disturb open space in
conjunction with Section 4.7.2 of the Zoning Ordinance as shown on the application plan.
The motion was defeated by a vote of 2:5. (Commissioners Craddock, Strucko, Joseph, Cannon,
Edgerton voted nay.) (Commissioners Higgins and Morris voted aye.)
Ms. Joseph stated that ZMA-2006-001 will be heard by the Board of Supervisors on August 2 with a
recommendation for denial.
Old Business:
Ms. Joseph asked if there was any old business.
Expedited Engineering Review (Mark Graham)
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