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Albemarle County Planning Commission
Final Minutes Regular Meeting June 11, 2024
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Tuesday, June 11, 2024,
at 6:00 p.m.
Members attending were Luis Carrazana; Corey Clayborne; Karen Firehock; Nathan Moore;
Lonnie Murray
Members absent: Julian Bivins; Fred Missel
Other officials present were Michael Barnes, Director of Planning; Andy Herrick, County
Attorney’s Office; and Carolyn Shaffer, Clerk to the Planning Commission.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum
Ms. Shaffer called the roll.
Mr. Carrazana established a quorum.
Consent Agenda
Mr. Clayborne motioned that the Planning Commission adopt the consent agenda, which was
seconded by Mr. Murray. The motion passed unanimously (5-0). Mr. Bivins and Mr. Missel were
absent from the vote.
Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the Public
There were none.
Requesting Deferral
AFD202300001 Ivy Creek District Review
AFD202400002 Hardware District Review
Ms. Firehock motioned that the Planning Commission defer item AFD202300001 and
AFD202400002 to the requested date of September 10, 2024, which was seconded by Mr.
Murray. The motion passed unanimously (5-0). Mr. Bivins and Mr. Missel were absent from the
vote.
Public Hearings
ZMA202300015 1928 Scottsville Road
Syd Shoaf, Senior Planner, said he would be giving staff's presentation on Zoning Map
Amendment application ZMA 202300015 1928 Scottsville Road. He said that the rezoning request
was for a 1.32-acre lot from R1 Residential to R10 Residential. He said that the subject property
was located south of the City of Charlottesville between Avon Street Extended and Scottsville
Road. He said that the tax map parcel number was 90-24, and the address was 1928 Scottsville
Road.
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Mr. Shoaf said that the property currently contained a one-story single family dwelling unit and
detached garage. He said that the property currently had R1 residential zoning, as shown in green
on the map. He said that adjacent parcels to the north and south also had R1 residential zoning.
He said that across Scottsville Road to the east, it was zoned Rural Areas, while across Avon
Street Extended to the west, it was zoned Planned Residential Development, which was part of
the Avon Park 2 subdivision containing 28 townhouses and two single-family detached houses.
Mr. Shoaf said that the subject parcel falls within the entrance corridor and the airport impact area
overlay district. He said that the subject property was within the Southern and Western Urban
Neighborhoods Master Plan and the future land use was designated as Neighborhood Density
Residential, which allowed for three to six residential units per acre.
Mr. Shoaf said that for this application, the applicant was requesting a to rezone the entire 1.32-
acre parcel from R1 residential to R10 residential. He said that if approved, the applicant intended
to construct a proffered maximum of eight single-family townhouse units for a density of 6.06
dwelling units per acre. He said that the primary access to the site would be from Scottsville Road
via Research Way.
Mr. Shoaf said that the eight townhouses would front an internal street, which would also provide
future inter-parcel connectivity to the parcels to the north and south. He said that additionally, the
applicant proposed an emergency access lane from the internal street to Avon Street Extended,
as shown on the screen. He said that the proposal included two street guest parking spaces, open
space, a recreation area, and a stormwater management area.
Mr. Shoaf said that pedestrian bicycle facilities were also proposed, including a pedestrian
pathway along Scottsville Road, a 10-foot shared use path along Avon Street extended, sidewalks
within the site, and a Class A primitive path along the emergency access way. He stated that the
applicant had provided a proffer to develop the property in general accord with the concept plan,
which included the following five major elements. He said that this was also included in the staff
report.
Mr. Shoaf said that in summary, staff found two factors favorable. He said that the request was
consistent with the land use recommendations of the Southern and Western Urban
Neighborhoods Master Plan. He said that the second factor favorable was that it provided
transportation improvements consistent with the recommendations of the Southern and Western
Urban Neighborhoods Master Plan, including a new shared use path along Avon Street extended
and a pedestrian path along Scottsville Road. He said that staff recommended approval of Zoning
Map Amendment request ZMA 202300015 1928 Scottsville Road.
Mr. Clayborne asked if affordable housing was a requirement for this development.
Mr. Shoaf said that affordable housing was not required as part of this development because it
was less than ten units total.
Mr. Clayborne said that he would assume there would be one unit designated as affordable.
Mr. Shoaf said that it was not required.
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Mr. Murray asked if Mr. Shoaf could address the letter they received regarding the easement and
its effect on the neighboring property.
Mr. Shoaf said that there was a letter received regarding ACSA and future sewer and water
connections to the site. He said that the letter was received over the weekend, allowing the
applicant to provide more details. He said that as of right now, that would be addressed at the site
plan stage upon approval of the application.
Mr. Moore asked if the emergency access would include a road or just a pathway.
Mr. Shoaf said that the applicant could probably provide further details. He said that Fire and
Rescue noted that it should measure at least 20 feet in width, but he was unsure what material it
would be made of.
Mr. Moore asked if there was a plan to connect the pedestrian and shared use paths between
parcels, or if they would just be working parcel-by-parcel until they all connected along Avon.
Mr. Barnes said that staff was working diligently on addressing that concern. He said that in this
particular area, there was a shared-use path farther up Avon Street on the same side of the road
as the current location. He said that they were attempting to build a shared-use path along this
portion of the corridor along Avon Street.
Mr. Carrazana opened the public hearing. He asked if the applicant had a presentation.
Amy George said that she was from Roudabush and Gale, representing the client requesting a
rezoning of the property. She said that she would discuss some design considerations they took
into account to move forward with this project. She said that she would provide an overview of
the neighborhood where the development was located.
Ms. George said that the property was situated on the southern side of the southern
neighborhood. She said that many recent developments in the area were townhouse
developments. She said that when designing this project, they considered matching the new
structures to the existing neighborhood and taking into account the surrounding areas and
previous developments.
Ms. George said that they also wanted to respect the site's topography, which was significant due
to the property's small size. She said that there was approximately 30 feet of grade change
between Avon Street Extended and Scottsville Road. She said that as a result, they aimed to
build something that would allow them to utilize the site without taking too much of it away. She
said that for instance, walkout basements were planned along Scottsville Road, and units facing
Avon Street would have first-floor access above the garage.
Ms. George said that the property measured 200 feet wide, which was quite small, so they
requested permission for only eight units. She said that they also asked for emergency access to
Avon Street due to the topography and their desire to minimize cut-through traffic. She said that
ensuring that school buses were redirected and reducing cut-through traffic in the surrounding
neighborhoods was crucial during the layout process, as it was a concern for their client. She said
that this factor was one of the considerations they took into account.
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Ms. George said that she would address the extension of water and sewer lines. She said that
the sewer line would connect to a sanitary sewer manhole located on the north side of Spring Hill
Village, which was approximately 1,300 linear feet of sanitary sewer. She said that at this time,
they had only completed preliminary concept layouts. She said that they were committed to
working with ACSA and VDOT to minimize construction-related disruptions, such as easements
or demolition, in the surrounding neighborhood.
Mr. Moore said that he noticed that Anna Beth Lane terminated at both ends and he assumed
that future developers might want to extend and connect neighborhoods there. He asked about
the factors taken into consideration when siting a road and placing it on the sides.
Ms. George said that she sited it in the middle of the site, so it was more balanced between the
different grades. She said that the existing grade on Anna Beth Lane on both ends was flush with
the existing grade, so it was not a significant grade change between the properties that could
connect with the subject property.
Mr. Murray said that he liked where they had located the stormwater management facility. He
asked if they had given any thought to what that would be like.
Ms. George said that they had considered using a biofilter and planned to add landscaping to the
biofilter, similar to many other biofilters in the area. She said that this illustration represented the
area it would encompass at this point in time.
Mr. Murray said that he was glad to hear that because it definitely added value to the
neighborhood to have something with attractive native plants and to provide benefit to biodiversity
to stormwater quality and not only the quantity.
Ms. Firehock asked if Ms. George could provide further information regarding the applicant’s
planning for the open space on the property.
Ms. George said that at this time, the plan was for a pathway to go through it, which would be
landscaped along the roadways but left natural.
Ms. Firehock asked if the townhouse residents would have a place to go outside and have a
barbecue or other passive activities.
Ms. George said that the area above the stormwater management pond would be available for
use.
Ms. Firehock asked if it would be a community gathering place of some sort.
Ms. George said yes, exactly.
Mr. Carrazana said that in lot eight, it was going right up to the property line, so he assumed there
would be a setback.
Ms. George said that yes, they would adhere to the standard setbacks established in the zoning
ordinance.
Mr. Carrazana asked if they would be required to maintain a setback.
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Ms. George said yes.
Mr. Carrazana asked if there were any members of the public who wished to speak on this item.
Roger Schickedanz said that he resided at 1858 Scottsville Road. He said that the Commission
had received the letter he sent previously. He said that he would try to summarize the issue
quickly. He said that ten years ago, he faced a similar situation with Spring Hill Village. He said
that they were planning to put in their townhouse development and there was going to be a right
of way cut back for VDOT to provide a turn lane. He said that at the time, he was concerned that
the old stone stair, which predated the right of way and goes from his house down about six feet
to the road to allow him to cross Route 20 to reach his mailbox, would have to be removed.
Mr. Schickedanz said that fortunately, to cut the story short, that was all avoided because VDOT
retracted the need for the turn lane, and Spring Hill Village, along with himself, were able to
convince the County to remove those requirements from the final approval. He said that he was
now faced with a similar situation again. He said that instead of a turn lane, there would be a
water and sewer line coming through, which would be a quarter mile from Spring Hill Village as
part of their plan. He said that it was not hypothetical, as he presented in his letter, but what they
were planning to do.
Mr. Schickedanz said that this would cause some disruption to the stairs, sidewalk leading to it,
driveway apron, and stone pillars between the right of way and his property affected by
construction. He said that he was unsure about ACSA requirements; they may need regrading or
a retaining wall. He said that therefore, he wanted protection and that through all this, he had
something behind him. He said that this was why he asked for this proffered because it was not
an easement, unnegotiated, in the right of way, but pre-existing structures. He said that there was
a precedent for having done this as a proffer in the past with Spring Hill Village.
Mr. Schickedanz said that it was legitimate to ask for another proffer in this case. He said that
finally, he wanted to say that he had been happy with the green buffer protection along Route 20
with Galaxie Farms, Stone Creek, and Spring Hill, which had trees. He said that however, those
trees must be removed now for the water and sewer line installation, exposing it. He said that he
worried about density and tight site as Avon Extended converged with Route 20, and that this
project was too dense for the property.
Mr. Carrazana asked if the applicant had a response to the public comment.
Ms. George said that she would like to address the fact that currently no water line was proposed
for Route 20. She said that they planned to obtain water from the high side of the site, Avon Street,
while the low side of the street was Scottsville Road. She said that the sanitary sewer had to go
in that area. She said that they were committed to working with ACSA and VDOT to find a solution
that satisfied all parties and caused minimal impact.
Mr. Carrazana closed the public hearing.
Mr. Clayborne asked if a project disrupted or damaged someone’s property there would be
automatic repair or compensation given to the property owner whose property was affected.
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Mr. Herrick said that he was not entirely clear on where the right-of-way limits were. He said that
a utility could not build on property that was not in the right-of-way or that belonged to another
owner. He said that he was not familiar enough with the exact right -of-way line to determine
whether the historic stairs were within the existing right-of-way or if additional acquisition by VDOT
or the utility was necessary.
Mr. Herrick said that this issue would be resolved between the property owner and either VDOT
or the utility to ensure that all improvements were within public rights-of-way or within right-of-way
acquired by the utility. He said that a utility could not build on private property without acquiring
the property first.
Mr. Barnes said that he would add that regarding the stone pillars, which were referenced as
being on Mr. Schickedanz’s property, Mr. Herrick’s guidance regarding them was likely
straightforward in relation to any impacts associated with those. He said that the stone stairs
within the right-of-way may present an interesting scenario; they probably did not fall under a
VDOT permit. He said that he was unsure how they would be handled.
Ms. Firehock said that if the stairs were within the right of way, the term "right" implied that VDOT
or a utility company with an easement could access the area as needed. She said that she was
uncertain how to write a condition requiring them to restore the area to similar quality and material,
but it would be nice if they could.
Mr. Clayborne said that he heard from the public speaker that maintaining an ability to walk across
the street to access the mailbox was important, which was why he asked the question.
Ms. Firehock said that she wondered how to write a condition that would encompass that every
attempt would be made to satisfactorily maintain the safety of crossing the road.
Mr. Herrick said that because this was a zoning map amendment, there were no conditions
attached in the way there would be for a special use permit. He said that the applicant could make
proffers, which it had in this case. He said that it was not appropriate for additional proffers to be
required; if the applicant chose to make proffers or revise its proffers between now and the Board
meeting, that was its prerogative.
Ms. Firehock said that they could not request proffers from the dais. She said that they could just
make it known that the Commission believed it would be beneficial to maintain the integrity and
structure of the existing features.
Mr. Moore said that he believed the message would be well-received by ACSA based on his time
on the board there. He said that the staff of ACSA did not go around trying to tear stuff up. He
said that he understood that these old stone stairs were likely one of a kind, and that memo could
probably be sent.
Mr. Moore said that he agreed with the comments made thus far. He said that this corridor was
highly utilized by cyclists coming from the rural area via that road. He said that he was pleased to
see the pedestrian improvements implemented there. He said that he believed anything they
could do to enhance pedestrian access further would be positive. He said that he was glad to see
those improvements being made.
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Mr. Carrazana said that it was important that they connect it, so they had a continuous stretch of
bike ped path along the road.
Mr. Murray said that in the Board of Supervisors' legislative agenda, he wished they had the ability
to include the ability to establish a fund that people could contribute to instead of requiring on-site
green space improvements. He said that he believed this would allow them to make more
improvements through contributions, similar to their affordable housing fund. He said that seeking
permission from the General Assembly to create a green space contribution fund may be
beneficial.
Ms. Firehock said that other cities had similar funds. She said that for instance, Charleston had a
greenway fund, which allowed developers to make donations, and those contributions supported
the creation of trails and greenways within the city.
Mr. Murray requested that staff suggest adding such an item to the legislative agenda in the future.
Ms. Firehock motioned that the Planning Commission recommend approval of ZMA202300015
1928 Scottsville Road for the reasons stated in the staff report, which was seconded by Mr.
Clayborne. The motion passed unanimously (5-0). Mr. Bivins and Mr. Missel were absent from
the vote.
Ms. Firehock said that she would like to add that the Planning Commission recommended that
the applicant work with VDOT and any other involved utility companies to make every effort to
restore anything disturbed to its former quality and integrity, including stairs, columns, and
retaining walls, in order to maintain the historic character of the beautiful road and residences
along it.
ZMA202300005 Berkmar Flats
Rebecca Ragsdale, Planning Manager, said that she would be presenting this rezoning request.
She said that she would provide the details of the request, the location, and staff’s
recommendation. She said that the Commission had received some updated materials as well.
She said that Berkmar Flats, highlighted in yellow on the map, with other developments labeled
for context. She said that the location of Berkmar Flats was between Woodburn Road and
Berkmar Drive, just south of Berkmar Overlook which had been developed right with about 52
units.
Ms. Ragsdale said that Victorian Heights had approval for approximately 88 units nearby. She
said that the Commission may recall the recent rezoning for Woodbrook Apartments in this
neighborhood. She said that other nearby landmarks included Agnor-Hurt and the SPCA, as well
as some commercial uses between Berkmar and Route 29. She said that Woodburn Road served
as the dividing line for rural and development areas.
Ms. Ragsdale said that displayed on the screen was another view of the neighborhood using the
most recent pictometry. She said that Victorian Heights had grading occurring currently, while
Berkmar Flats, adjacent to Berkmar Overlook, had been constructed. She said that the zoning
map showed the 3.62 acres already zoned R6 as part of this request. She said that the proposal
was to rezone from R6 to R15. She said that Victorian Heights' zoning was also R15, and to the
south was R6. She said that the rural area on the other side of the development area was
indicated in white and the red represented the highway commercial zone.
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Ms. Ragsdale said that the land use plan recognized in their analysis that the Places 29 land use
plan did not recommend residential as a primary use but contemplated it as a secondary use. She
said that it did not indicate a density, but it was acknowledged that this was an area with a lot of
by right zoning and development under its by right zoning. She said that it had not been rezoned
or transitioned to what was contemplated in the Places 29 Master Plan several years ago. She
said that this was something to be considered during the comprehensive plan update discussion.
Ms. Ragsdale said that regarding the specifics of this proposal, there would be 54 units with the
rezoning and up to 28 units through by right options. She said that the primary entrance was from
Berkmar Drive, and an updated concept plan was received on June 10. She said that this plan
provided a full connection to Woodburn Road, which would not be converted to emergency
access. She said that sidewalks were planned along Woodburn, and there was a provision for an
additional interconnection over to the parcel between Victorian Heights and this one. She said
that the primary access had been proposed from Berkmar Drive.
Ms. Ragsdale said that included in the packet was information regarding the constraint with the
20-foot width for their RWSA easement, making it challenging to make that connection to Swede
Street. She said that it was R15 with proffers, and the proffers included the concept plan and
commitment to the general layout in terms of building orientation, location, and the parking area
locations. She said that they were happy that they had made commitments to the size and location
of open space and the updated proffers dated June 10 no longer included a provision that would
convert the Woodburn Road entrance at the 29th CO from a regular entrance to emergency
access.
Ms. Ragsdale said that there were also provisions for 15% affordable housing, which could be for
sale or for rent, consistent with the policy at the time this rezoning was initially reviewed. She said
that their recommendation had changed from the original staff report based on the current
provisions for interconnections, which was their primary concern. She said that staff was
recommending approval, based on the updated June 10 proffers and the concept plan primarily.
Ms. Firehock said that she had not yet compared the information presented a moment ago with
what was in their packet. She asked if it was accurate that there was slightly more open space.
Ms. Ragsdale said that the only changes were for the interconnections.
Ms. Firehock asked if the open space remained the same.
Ms. Ragsdale said yes.
Mr. Murray asked if staff had any thoughts about the rezoning of commercial industrial land to
residential when the County had such limited commercial-zoned land available.
Ms. Ragsdale said that staff did not have concern regarding the subject 3.6 acres, but it was
recognized that they must revisit this area and explore other parts of the County to offset that
acreage. She said that they did not conduct any sort of analysis or balance sheet. She said that
they examined the character of the area as it currently existed and its changes since the
completion of the master plan.
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Mr. Moore asked if there were guidelines for what triggered additional interconnections. He said
that south of Berkmar, between Berkmar and Woodburn, there was only one way in and out with
53 units, except for an emergency. He asked what the guidelines were for that.
Ms. Ragsdale said that there was a provision to look for interconnections and require them based
on where they make sense with site plans, regardless of emergency access. She said that
Berkmar Overlook had only an emergency access from Woodburn, which played into the required
emergency access that may lead to additional entrances. She said that the desire was to set up
interconnections and not lose any opportunities as developments came through, especially when
considering how things could connect through multiple ones at the same time.
Ms. Ragsdale said that in a few places, they had seen this, so they tried to look for those
opportunities. She said that some sites may have constraints or could not make it work, so they
must consider that when establishing them on the application plan. She said that it was also
included in the ordinance that they would look at site plans as well.
Mr. Moore said that he was not in favor of the suburban design of many small pockets of housing
with only one road in and out of each development; he very much preferred more neighborhood
interconnections. He said that he noticed with Berkmar Overlook, the access to Woodburn was
emergency only, and he wondered if they were moving towards encouraging more neighborhood
interconnections.
Ms. Ragsdale said that referencing the plan, there were a few interconnections. She said that
there was the main connection to Berkmar but they were also planning ahead for other
connections.
Mr. Carrazana asked what the impediment was to the RWSA connection right of way.
Ms. Ragsdale said that the applicant had the full details, but she believed it was due to topography
and the depth of the water line.
Mr. Barnes said that part of the issue was that when Swede Street was planned, it was generally
too flat. He said that it did not rise up to adjacent property lines or cut into the slope. He said that
it was six feet or so below the existing grade of the property they were discussing tonight. He said
that to make that grade, they would have to drop the subject property's grade to meet the lower
grade of the adjacent property.
Mr. Barnes said that the principal water line from the water plant was not interested in them
disturbing that, as it was impractical in some respects. He said that they likely made an oversight
when examining this adjacent property during the site plan process. He said that they should have
raised the road during that time and did not. He said that it may be a lost opportunity for
interconnection, but he believed it would be.
Mr. Carrazana asked when the determination would be made as to whether the rental units would
be for sale or for rent.
Ms. Ragsdale said that the applicant had the option for either, and it would be determined at the
site plan phase.
Mr. Carrazana opened the public hearing. He asked if the applicant had a presentation.
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Kelsey Schlein said that she was an engineer with Shimp Engineering, representing the property
owner, Third Mesa. She said that also present with her were Justin Shimp, project engineer, and
Whit Graves from Evergreen Home Builders, a local home builder partnering on the project. She
said that she would provide some context about the site, noting that Berkmar Drive was an active
development corridor.
Ms. Schlein said that the 3.6-acre property had Berkmar Overlook to its south, completed recently,
and a parcel with an existing duplex to the north. She said that nearby were other developments
like Victorian Heights and Berkmar Overlook. She said that a hotel and self-storage building were
under construction just south of their site, while a Flow automotive development was on another
part of the corridor.
Ms. Schlein said that the Berkmar corridor had changed significantly in recent years compared to
what was initially planned about 15 years ago when the Places 29 Master Plan land use
designation was set for office R&D flex light industrial for this property. She said that she would
discuss this further in her presentation.
Ms. Schlein said that regarding their request, they were seeking a rezoning of the 3.623-acre
property, which consisted of three separate parcels. She said that they requested a change from
R6 to R15 zoning classification. She said that the proposed conditions submitted with this request
were related to the concept plan and major elements, including affordability.
Ms. Schlein said that the R15 residential district allowed up to 54 units maximum on this site,
while the current zoning district, R6, with bonus factors, could permit up to 32. She said that a site
plan was under review for 20 units by right in the R6. She said that the difference in rezoning here
was an additional area yield of 22 to 26 more units from what was discussed for the by-right
condition, with nine of those additional units designated as affordable.
Ms. Schlein said that the comprehensive plan adopted in 2011 and last amended in 2015 showed
a purple swath on the map to be the flex R&D light industrial designation. She said that she
believed that the comprehensive plan and Places 29 Master Plan offered specific language for
the flex R&D light industrial district, where they were consistent with that. She said that the specific
language related to the fact that these designations should be viewed holistically with adjacent
properties subject to the same zoning district.
Ms. Schlein said that not every recommendation needed to take place on every single parcel. She
said that residential was a secondary use, and secondary uses were identified as necessary to
support the primary uses on the property. She said that within this designation, they had Better
Living across the way, a more light industrial user. She said that they had self -storage and hotel
coming across the street. She said that they felt this residential development contributes to the
character of this district while recognizing the context in 2024 and how it may have evolved
differently than imagined 15 years ago.
Ms. Schlein said that displayed was an overlay where they could see the Berkmar Overlook
development and the Victorian Heights site plan. She said that the 3.6-acre parcel existed
between two developments, making higher intensity residential the logical next step for this site
and an efficient use of land in development areas. She said that the proposal was consistent with
the comprehensive plan's promotion of density within development areas to create new compact
urban places and infill redevelopment compatible with surrounding neighborhoods and uses.
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Ms. Schlein said that in the concept plan, major elements in the proffers and design elements
such as building envelopes fronting on Woodburn Road and Berkmar Drive had been identified
to establish a streetscape and street presence on both property frontages. She said that they also
had proffered central amenity space as a minimum of 3,000 square feet but realized at 8,000
square feet. She said that they ensured that a larger contiguous area exceeded the minimum tot
lot requirement area of 2,000 square feet required by the ordinance.
Ms. Schlein said that the next slide displayed a more detailed illustrative plan, which depicted an
inner parcel connection with the properties to the northeast, connecting off of Berkmar Drive and
Woodburn Road. She said that focusing on connectivity, she wanted to provide an explanation of
why they put this in that location. She said that they were aligning themselves with the interparcel
connection that was proposed on Victorian Heights.
Ms. Schlein said that regarding connectivity, a continuous connection from Berkmar Drive to
Woodburn Road was provided. She said that a sidewalk along Woodburn Road had also been
established, which would be an urban street section. She said that they were continuing the urban
street section that Victorian Heights would install to their north and then to their south, the
Woodburn multifamily development approved by the Board a few months ago.
Ms. Schlein said that there was a landscape strip and sidewalk on Woodburn Road. She said that
considering the site's context, it had an existing sidewalk along its frontage on Berkmar Drive.
She said that the site was very close to an existing bus stop, and there was a proposed County-
funded shared use path construction opposite of Berkmar. She said that the site was just under
half a mile from Agnor-Hurt Elementary School, and there was a continuous sidewalk all the way
to the school.
Ms. Schlein said that there was an option to access the elementary school through Woodburn
Road, which, with the development on Woodburn, trips would increase over time. She said that
however, as that urban street section continued down Woodburn Road, she believed that the
hope was that one day there would be a complete pedestrian connection. She said that in the
meantime, there were very limited trips on that road, so a bike ride to school would be possible
for Agnor-Hurt students.
Ms. Schlein said that on the Swede Street connection, she would focus more on the engineering
side of things. She said that Swede Street was a public connection. She said that the purple line
on the graphic represented the portion of the road that has been constructed, while the purple
dotted line showed the profile of the road designed to be carried onto the applicant’s property,
marked by the red line.
Ms. Schlein said that the green area indicated the existing grade. She said that the road was
constructed and came right into a steep slope before continuing up onto the applicant’s property
past the property line. She said that the blue dot represented the approximate location of the
existing RWSA water line. She said that if they were to continue the road, they would have to drop
the RWSA water line. She said that she wanted to ensure she made it through these specific
details. She said that regarding the screening, which she understood was very important to the
neighbors, she wanted to note that the screening of parking lots was a requirement in the
ordinance.
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Mr. Moore said that the Swede Street diagram was disappointing because it hit him like a punch
in the gut. He said that staff had informed him that it was planned to be the interconnection back
at Berkmar Overlook, but instead it ended in a wall of dirt, which was unfortunate. He asked why
not connect Swede Street with Woodburn Road instead, which seemed to be an easier solution
than creating a new exit to Woodburn Road. He said that he was unsure about the cost
implications of this alternative connection, but considering its simplicity, he believed it would be
preferable. He asked if they knew what was possible for that area and if it would be cost-prohibitive
to the project if they went that way.
Ms. Schlein said that as Mr. Barnes pointed out, RWSA usually preferred them to avoid getting
near their water mains, as they had very limited grading restrictions. She said that the organization
was quite strict about what can and cannot be placed within their easement. She said that in this
specific instance, a 12-inch water main connected to a 36-inch water main. She said that dropping
the 12-inch pipe by at least six feet would prove to be cost-prohibitive for this particular project.
Mr. Moore asked what the applicant’s plans were regarding stormwater runoff.
Ms. Schlein said that at this phase, they were required to conduct a conceptual analysis. She said
that they had provided this with their initial concept to staff. She said that the details would be
finalized during the site plan stage. She said that they acknowledged that this was a sensitive
issue in this part of the County.
Mr. Murray said that he had concerns about the steep slope. He said that steep slopes such as
this one contributed significantly to long-term sedimentation. He said that there was a nearby
reservoir, and it seemed ironic that the RWSA had a pipe which prevented them from fixing the
grade of that slope. He said that the sediment would go directly into the reservoir due to this issue.
He asked Ms. Schlein could provide information as to how the slope was being stabilized.
Ms. Schlein said that she believed it was a three-to-one slope. She said that although it was a
steep slope, vegetation could grow on those slopes. She said that the vegetation was still being
planted at the time, but it was vegetated at the moment. She said that she understood why the
design team had chosen to place the stub outs in their current locations at the development next
door in order to make interparcel connections. She said that it appeared to be an oversight not to
have considered how to connect those stub outs with the properties adjacent to it in the future.
Mr. Murray asked if there was any bare soil on that slope at this time.
Ms. Schlein said that she was not involved with that particular project, but she knew that if the
slope was not stabilized, the developer would not be able to have their bonds released on that
property.
Mr. Murray said that he noticed there was a large amount of pavement in that area. He asked if
the applicant felt this was the appropriate amount of parking, or if they would consider installing
less parking for this development.
Ms. Schlein said that they must meet the minimum requirements stated in the ordinance. She
said that the graphic may show fewer parking spaces than they currently had in the concept plan.
She said that originally, this proposal was for 70 units when a zoning determination by BZA
allowed potential bonus factors on this property. She said that however, those factors were not
applicable now because the ordinance had changed.
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Ms. Schlein said that the design and layout were originally planned for more units. She said that
her initial response to Mr. Murray’s comment was that probably were still parked for what was
imagined with 15 more units, so they were likely going to use some of that. She said that in this
location, they wanted to ensure adequate parking for residents since there were limited
opportunities for on-street parking elsewhere.
Mr. Murray said that since they were discussing converting a property that could have been used
for commercial purposes into residential use, he would like to know the approximate distance a
resident here would need to walk to access services such as a grocery store or local cafe.
Ms. Schlein said that she did not have the distances memorized but knew Agnor-Hurt was less
than half a mile away as it had been recently measured. She said that Kroger, located south of
Agnor-Hurt and accessible from Woodbrook, was nearby. She said that Walmart and Kroger in
the vicinity, one could easily reach those destinations within a mile or less.
Mr. Moore said that it was approximately half a mile to Kroger.
Mr. Murray asked if the applicant had considered adding something other than just residential. He
asked if they had thought about including a commercial establishment within the property, such
as a café or another type of business. He said that this would serve the local residents and prevent
the area from being entirely residential.
Ms. Schlein said that this was the first time that idea had been brought up. She said that the
proposal and partners involved at the moment were residential developers, so no, they had not
considered that at this point.
Mr. Murray said that one of the factors making Old Trail a very livable community was the
commercial spot located in the middle. He said that this feature differentiated it and made it very
livable versus not livable. He said that the presence of doctor's offices, restaurants, and physical
therapist offices contributed to this. He said that those small details enhanced the community
greatly.
Mr. Murray said that particularly because this was surrounded by automobile dealerships and
industrial uses, the development could greatly benefit from having a service that catered to
residents within the development or adjoining developments. He said that they were very close to
the reservoir there, so he would prefer adding more green space on the Woodburn Roadside to
create a buffer to the rural areas side and the reservoir.
Mr. Clayborne said that his comment related to Mr. Murray’s point as well. He said that as an
architect, his attention was drawn to the small green spaces present in the design. He said that
his desired outcome would be to have a more usable green space. He said that he was unsure if
their architect could do this, and he suspected not, but perhaps rotating some of the orange
buildings would create additional room for green space, especially since there were no plans to
connect to Sweet Street on the left side.
Mr. Clayborne said that he believed that this change could present an opportunity to reevaluate
the design's usable green space. His preferred desired outcome was an increase in usable green
space within the project. He asked for clarification regarding where the affordable housing was
planned to be located within this project.
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Ms. Schlein said that they had not yet determined which units would be considered affordable.
She said that this decision would be made during the site plan stage.
Mr. Clayborne said that he would prefer not to have all affordable units in one building because
no one should be able to tell whether it was an affordable unit or not from an aesthetic view. He
said that he would include that comment as they considered the design moving forward.
Ms. Firehock said that she had similar comments about the green space. She said that a finger
shape stuck out as one came off Berkmar Drive, which appeared to buffer but was unclear if it did
so effectively. She said that it seemed like a series of leftover scraps. She said that if they had
altered the layout and had the road running through the middle from one end to another, splitting
up the two buildings in the center, they could have shifted things to the left and eliminated that
right-side road.
Ms. Firehock said that this would create a larger park on the right-hand side. She said otherwise,
it seemed too asphalted, which may degrade the livability of the community in the future due to
the heat of the pavement. She said that regarding the light green color, she asked if it was meant
to be backyards or small open spaces. She said that she wanted to know if it was usable for
residents to sit outside and relax in a lawn chair.
Ms. Schlein said absolutely. She said that they had not imagined that the surface would be hard.
She said that she had heard the comment about expanding the centralized green space echoed
as well. She said that they would definitely consider that while balancing it with connecting
Woodburn and Berkmar, providing a traffic-calming road design instead of just a straight shot
through.
Ms. Firehock said that they could affect some of that by incorporating curves in the road design.
She said that by examining the development to the left, there was a curve visible using Google
Street View and placing the man icon down. She said that it seemed more curved than the drawing
suggested due to the elevation involved, which created a traffic calming feature with curving lines
rather than straight ones. She asked whether the illustration provided was the proffered layout
that must be adhered to or if it simply depicted the number of units and general layout.
Ms. Schlein said that the proffered general accord development included the provided concept.
She said that the major elements of that plan were the buildings fronting on Woodburn and
Berkmar, with parking relegated to the rear and a central green space of a minimum of 3,000
square feet. She said that this was the general accord plan and design, highlighting major
elements such as establishing streetscape on both frontages and having a centralized green
space. She said that they could take the consideration of increasing the minimum size of the
green space from the current 3,000 square feet.
Ms. Firehock said that breaking up the long stretch of buildings with smaller human-scaled blocks
would create more windows and make the area feel more like a neighborhood. She said that she
wanted to take a pencil and resketch it but did not want to irritate Justin Shimp by pretending to
be an engineer.
Ms. Firehock said that the grade could be improved to connect the green space better, making it
less random and more inviting for walking between them. She said that it was not in the purview
of the Commission to redesign the plan, as they were only looking at density and the basic
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fronting, but she recommended adding creativity to enhance the green thread throughout the
development.
Mr. Carrazana thanked the applicant for the changes they had made. He said that it was not
mentioned in the proffers, but the connection to Woodburn was also included in this concept site
plan as a requirement.
Ms. Schlein said that they removed the requirement that designated the Woodburn entrance as
an emergency access road. She said that the proffer for that had been struck.
Mr. Carrazana asked if it would be full access.
Ms. Schlein said yes. She said that this decision was made because their phase one site plan,
which was currently under review, was for units that front along Woodburn. She said that as a
result, the primary access for these units would be from Woodburn, and consequently, the design
included a commercial entrance to begin with.
Mr. Carrazana said that he wanted to echo the comments made by several Commissioners
earlier. He said that there were many opportunities available within the concept shared, and by
not having a connection to the south, it could help them rethink the layout. He said that he agreed
with the idea of splitting the buildings to help with the topography, making the turn more
manageable. He said that there was approximately a 40-foot difference between Berkmar and
Woodburn.
Ms. Schlein said yes.
Mr. Carrazana said that it was a challenging site from a topographical perspective. He said that
there were opportunities to make changes that would benefit not only the residents but also the
children playing near the streets. He said that he agreed with what had been said, and he hoped
the applicant could dedicate more time to this layout while considering the people who will live
there. He said that although they were currently focused on placing buildings and addressing
topography, he believed they could elevate their approach further, and he was confident that they
would.
Ms. Schlein said that the comments they could take away during this rezoning phase were to take
a look at committing to making the centralized green space larger in their proffers. She said that
it was their goal to make it an enjoyable place for people to live. She said that there they had to
balance the dynamic between presenting a general zoning concept and then bringing a specific
site plan. She said she appreciated all the comments and assured that they would take them into
account during the site plan process.
Mr. Carrazana asked if there were any members of the public who wished to speak on this item.
Claire (never said last name) said that she resided at 720 Empire Street in Berkmar Overlook,
which meant her property bordered the Berkmar Flats property. She said that she was here to
voice her opposition to the proposal, specifically the change from R6 to R15 zoning. She said that
even with the modifications made, this would result in the removal of all trees on that property.
She said that they all opposed any proposal that would not include preservation of some of those
trees, especially a tree line between the Berkmar Overlook and Berkmar Flats.
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Ms. Claire said that regarding the hill descending from the properties' boundary to those on
Empire Street, there was in fact a drainage issue. She said that despite having plants along that
hill, water still drained onto their patios during rainfall. She said that if all trees were removed from
the area, this problem would certainly worsen. She said that she also had concerns about power.
She said that every time it stormed, rained heavily, or even when the sky was clear, her
development lost power. She said that she had experienced more blackouts in the last two years
than in the previous ten years in Albemarle County on Pantops.
Ms. Claire said that she was unsure if burying power lines would help, but adding another
development with numerous units crammed into a small space using the same power grid would
be disastrous. She said that referring to the Places 29 Master Plan, it promoted neighborhoods
offering diverse housing options connected by an attractive, efficient, accessible multimodal
transportation system, urban-style development, parks, open spaces, sense of respite, and
contributing to overall quality of life. She said that this R15 rezoning went against these principles.
Janet Calley said that she lived in Berkmar Overlook. She said that she knew that the HOA had
submitted an objection with several reasons. She said that she wanted to ensure that those
reasons were reviewed because they represented the opinions of many residents in Berkmar
Overlook, whom she had spoken to. She said that as a 70-year-old new resident of Virginia,
specifically Charlottesville, and having taken on a 30-year mortgage in Berkmar Overlook, which
was insane at her age, she did so because she believed it would be an ideal, well-located, green,
and beautiful place to live.
Ms. Calley said that already, the situation had already changed for the worse. She said that the
traffic was now extremely congested, the drainage system was inadequate, and the once-
beautiful trees had been removed. She said that there were numerous dense housing
developments along Berkmar Drive. She said that this small patch of land with its lovely green
space and scenic reservoir view was now at risk of being destroyed. She said that some of their
residences would be situated right next to asphalt, which was not how it was presented when they
moved in. She said that the construction of the hotel had also obstructed their views.
Ms. Calley said that she was speaking from her heart that this was not what was represented to
them. She said that she did not believe it was in the best interest of Charlottesville. She said that
they had an opportunity to preserve the green space and maintain the good look of the area. She
said that as previously mentioned, power outages were constant, and drainage issues persisted.
She said that she requested that these concerns be included in the record.
Ms. Shaffer said that there were two speakers signed up online.
Stacy Tanner said that she lived next door to Claire Calley at 722 Empire Street, next to Swede
Street. She said that the previously mentioned slope was not vegetated and was barren. She said
that she was in complete agreement with the other comments. She said that she only saw one
entity who was benefiting from this, which was not Charlottesville or the community, but only the
developer. She said that the developer would come in, do what he wanted, get his money, and
then be gone. She said that the people there would not have any green spaces or quality of life.
Ms. Tanner said that while they would have a roof over their head, that would be it. She said that
there was no walkability to speak of, and there were no crosswalks going across Route 29, so
any of the restaurants or other places over there could not be accessed without a car, adding to
the increased traffic along Berkmar Drive. She said that they could not walk to anything in that
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neighborhood. She said that she would like to say she was vehemently opposed to this rezoning,
and the parcel should stay at the smaller density so they could enjoy more green spaces and
preserve some of the trees.
Mr. Carrazana asked if the applicant had a response to the public comments.
Ms. Schlein said that she wanted to discuss who would benefit from this proposal. She said that
22 additional households would benefit compared to what could be built by right. She said that
the reasons for desiring to live in this area include the location's access to conveniences in the
development area and having rural areas nearby. She said that it made it an ideal spot for efficient
land use in the development zones. She said that regarding some additional comments, Mr.
Shimp could provide follow-up remarks.
Ms. Schlein said that they discovered a more significant grade change across the property than
initially thought, which was 45 feet instead of 30 feet. She said that another design consideration
was ensuring they could traverse this terrain and get from a connection point on Berkmar to
another connection point on Woodburn while meeting grading requirements for parking lots, travel
ways, fire rescue, and various engineering design standards.
Justin Shimp said that he was the engineer for this project. He said that for the record, he would
never be offended by constructive criticism about his designs because it was part of the process.
He said that the drawing may not show the revised layout accurately as it displayed the original
70-unit proposal, which had been reduced to 54 units, making it over-parked. He said that the by
right site plan showed the top units facing Woodburn now had garages in the back, reducing the
parking lot size by half. He said that there were some positive changes like this resulting from the
modifications.
Mr. Shimp said that the reason for the unusual layout not connecting to a central space was due
to the grade requiring a connection that met standards. He said that to cover 45 feet of grade
change, a fishhook design was necessary, although it may not be aesthetically pleasing. He said
that regarding the water line comment, it served as a high-pressure line for many customers.
Mr. Shimp thought if they planted a tree within it, they would come and cut it down, and that was
just what it was. He said that regarding the comment from folks regarding R6 versus R15. He said
that he assured them that in these kinds of developments, if it was R6, all the trees got cut down
as well. He said that it was a matter of what size housing went in and how many affordable units
were included. He said that the change here from the by right, which Ms. Schlein pointed out, was
that they could get nine more affordable units out of this.
Mr. Shimp said that the added density increased affordability but did not affect the quantities of
trees saved. He said that with a site with this much grade, developers had to cut the trees, put
them down, regrade, and replant new trees. He said that he thought the County had a good
landscape ordinance that they could see in neighborhoods like Old Trail, for example, where they
could walk in now, was urban but there were trees. He said that it was very attractive, showing
that people could live well together with the trees if it was built from the start, which was what they
aimed to do with these developments.
Mr. Clayborne said that he never saw the graphic design that showed less asphalt.
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Mr. Shimp said that was correct; it was not part of the zone. He said that they had a by right site
plan underway for the units facing Woodburn. He said that the design changes in their site plan
were similar to the one being reviewed, but they removed the parking row adjacent to those units
and replaced it with garages instead. He said that as one entered Woodburn, there were units on
both sides that matched the zoning plan under review.
Mr. Shimp said that it was an early iteration of a zoning concept, and he believed that the site
plan was an improvement over the sketch in front of the Commission. He said that the site plan
level included details about their garage and landscaping locations. He said that they would
maintain the green space around the units, providing small yard spaces with balconies, porches,
and spots to sit outside. He said that this layout accommodated these features despite the grading
required for the road to work.
Mr. Carrazana said that the light green space Ms. Firehock mentioned earlier which were near
Woodburn could be landscaped with trees.
Mr. Shimp said that was correct; there were street trees all along there as well as landscaped
front lawns between the units and the street.
Ms. Firehock asked about the border to buffer between the adjacent development. She said that
she understood there were grade changes.
Mr. Shimp said that they were required by the ordinance to screen any type of parking lots. He
said that while it was not depicted on the concept plan, there would have to be screening of some
type, such as a fence or shrubs on the top of the hill between their parking lot and the adjacent
development. He said that they could not plant them in the easement but they would be on their
site. He said that they would likely lose a few parking spaces to execute the landscaping required
by the ordinance.
Mr. Murray said that he would like to go back to the diagram showing the water pipe and its slope.
He asked if it was possible to work with RWSA to resolve some of the slope's problems, making
it more manageable than at present. He asked whether there was any chance to improve that
area so as to prevent stormwater from flowing down the steep incline and onto the neighboring
property.
Mr. Shimp said that the slope was actually not on their land. He said that Ms. Schlein also pointed
out that the bond should have been released, but they were not involved with that development
so it was possible that the bond may have not been released and could still be under County
review. He said that one thing to note was that with the contour maps, the gray lines indicated
water flow in that direction. He said that they would have to intercept it and pipe it down the road.
Mr. Shimp said that there may actually be some mitigation in this case. He said that it was not
always the case, but in this situation, he could see how the neighbor might have an issue. He said
that from the top of this road, the water flowed straight down to their property. He said that their
stormwater plan would require them to intercept that and discharge it to an adequate receiving
channel, which would not be those backyards.
Mr. Shimp said that in this situation, there may be some improvement for the neighbors. He said
that they were not allowed to make it worse as part of their design. He said that they would have
to evaluate the runoff in that direction, but inherently they would have to capture it all and take it
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down the street to meet the requirements. He said that there may be a little bit of improvement
for the neighbors in that regard.
Mr. Carrazana said that in regards to landscaping, the RWSA did not permit planting trees over
the waterline; however, shrubs and ground cover were allowed. He said that by doing so, they
could potentially mitigate any runoff, even if it was not on their property, as much of the steeper
part is on their land. He said that implementing appropriate ground cover could help address the
issue. He said that he would encourage considering landscape improvements for the buffer area,
as there were options available to enhance it.
Mr. Carrazana closed the public hearing and the matter rested with the Commission.
Ms. Firehock asked if it would be possible to see the current site of the 28 townhomes under
review, as this was replacing that design. She said that they had submitted an application to
exchange the original design for one with 54 multifamily units in townhomes.
Ms. Ragsdale said that she had the information in the slides. She said that this plan was created
considering the other phase. She said that there was no grading sheet available. She said that
the townhomes were arranged in rows facing Woodburn with parking located at the back. She
said she had only pulled up this particular slide to show where they were supposed to be located.
Ms. Firehock asked if there were 28 units because they were stacked townhomes.
Ms. Ragsdale said yes.
Ms. Firehock said that the new plan offered almost twice the density compared to before and
included some affordable housing options.
Ms. Ragsdale said that if they decided against stacked units, they could consider alternative
townhouses located further down the hill.
Mr. Moore asked whether the rezoning request was straightforward or not. He said he wanted to
know if the map of conceptual grading and utilities attached to that request. He asked for
clarification on whether it bound future building plans and site proposals in any way, or if it was
just a proposal for rezoning.
Ms. Ragsdale said that it was a rezoning proposal which included proffers committing to this as a
concept plan. She said that the project was in general accord.
Mr. Moore said the other commissioners seemed to indicate that it would be better if the
recreational space and green spaces could be consolidated.
Ms. Firehock said that she understood what the applicant said about the green finger and having
to go in a curvy way to try to get up to create a through road meeting grade requirements for
emergency vehicles. She said she still believed that the connection between the green space
could be improved. She asked whether this was better or if it represented the County's desire to
prioritize density over other considerations. She said that they should consider if more units were
always better and if they needed to get as much density in the urban ring as possible. She said
she felt that this approach did not focus enough on the neighborhood itself.
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Mr. Murray said that when he considered the comprehensive plan and its objectives, particularly
Places 29 and the principles behind them, a lot of it focused on livability. He said that in his view,
this proposal failed in terms of livability. He said that he was less concerned about where the
green space was located. He said that he did not want to dictate their plan but wanted to find
ways to make it more livable.
Mr. Murray said that the concept shown was not particularly livable. He said that they had been
discussing giving up valuable commercial space that was revenue positive. He said that
residential areas, on the other hand, tended to be revenue negative as they spent more money
supporting them than they received in tax revenue. He said that if they decided to give up their
commercial space for another purpose, it should ideally be an improvement over what they
currently had.
Ms. Firehock said that they had rejected other applications on Avon Street in the past because
they did not meet the expected level of quality. She said that in return for the developer receiving
additional units, there was a benefit for the developer. She said that society required housing, but
it was their responsibility to ensure that the housing provided was of high quality and long-lasting.
Ms. Firehock said that whatever was constructed in this area would likely remain unchanged or
undeveloped for at least 60 to 70 years. She said that she questioned whether this development
justified the rezoning. She said that density could be achieved aesthetically while still providing
green, welcoming spaces. She said she did not believe that was the case with this development.
Mr. Clayborne said that he had concerns about designing in general accordance with the concept
plan. He said that he had the same questions and requested the applicant to share information
regarding the community's needs, particularly concerning the possibility of increasing green
space. He said that as it stands, he believed there was a significant missed opportunity for more
greenery, and it appeared that the current priority was circulation and asphalt over livability.
Mr. Moore said that he believed it was a good attempt to put a design on a small, challenging site.
He said that this was due to limited space in the development area, but they had more people
moving in, and there was a need for homes for these individuals. He said that finding ways to do
that on these small sites would be limited in scope. He said that they were trimming around the
edges when there was a need for a big housing push. He said he was uncertain about whether
the market alone could achieve this goal.
Mr. Moore said he believed that they needed to use every tool at their disposal. He said he thought
that the site was suitable for robust infill development. He said it was near schools, groceries,
public transit, and other urban amenities. He said that he was not entirely tied to using this road
solely for commercial and light industrial purposes, even though they had a limited number of
those options for businesses. He said that dense housing tended to pay more for itself than single-
family homes.
Mr. Moore said that it was undeniable that single-family homes did not cover their infrastructure
costs. He said that he understood the concerns of people who appreciated treed hillsides and
pretty spots near their townhomes and enjoyed the sounds of birds in their surroundings. He said
that they had identified a particular atmosphere for the area, but then there was a proposal for
numerous houses behind them. He said he was uncertain about how to communicate this
information to everyone within the development zones regarding properties they did not own being
able to change and have structures built on them for new residents moving into those
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neighborhoods.
Mr. Moore said that if residents wanted 20 acres where they could urinate off their porch, they
had to go to the rural areas. He said that he was unsure how this message could be conveyed
more clearly and broadly. He said that this was the way the development area had been planned
for more than 40 years, and those who were sold on it not changing were sold on lies.
Mr. Moore said that there was a significant underlying question about how do they create homes
for both existing residents and newcomers. He said that regarding this specific parcel, he had no
issue with the density or variances. He said that the design appeared odd to him, and he wished
it incorporated more opportunities for community space and green areas. He said that he was
uncertain if these concerns were enough to oppose it outright. He said that he believed that the
site plan design could be improved.
Mr. Murray said that one of the things about this was that there were many design considerations.
He said that there was much to discuss regarding County parking requirements. He said that he
did not care if they met them; he would be fine with fewer parking spaces or taller buildings. He
said that the question for him was how to make the area more livable.
Mr. Murray said that improving green space or adding commercial features that residents could
benefit from were ways to achieve this goal. He said that this design did not meet his expectations.
He said he completely supported density in this location but believed it must be a livable density,
as otherwise, people would not want to live there. He said that even if they provided affordable
housing, it should be a place where people would want to reside for equity reasons.
Mr. Carrazana said that there was very little commercial development occurring on the Berkmar
side, and he did not see any in the other two developments: one completed to the south, and
another being built to the north. He said that both lacked commercial areas as well. He said that
the current zoning allowed for commercial development, which was happening across the street.
He said that this raised questions about whether residents would be able to take advantage of
amenities without relying on driving to work.
Mr. Carrazana said that from a community standpoint, he questioned if they were helping to build
a community or just looking at each site independently. He said that this was not their job nor the
staff's responsibility. He said that this left many opportunities for the applicant to improve not only
the layout but also address density concerns and livability issues. He said that he thought that the
application had much room for improvement in his opinion.
Mr. Herrick said that the Commission may want to hear from the applicant.
Ms. Schlein requested to defer the application so that they could amend the concept plan to take
into account the feedback from the Commission.
Mr. Herrick asked if that was a deferral to a date specific or a general deferral.
Ms. Schlein said that they were requesting a general deferral. She said that they hoped to be
back before the Commission in a few months.
Mr. Moore motioned the Planning Commission to defer the item to a date to be determined, which
was seconded by Mr. Carrazana.
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Mr. Clayborne said he appreciated the request because he wanted the project to be successful.
Ms. Firehock said that she agreed and believed it was a site for infill. She said that Mr. Moore was
correct in that most projects would now be dealing with difficult sites. She said she thought that
by focusing on better design and human-scale connectivity, they could create something great.
Mr. Carrazana said that despite the significant challenge posed by the grading, there were many
opportunities present in the layout.
The motion carried unanimously (5-0). (Mr. Bivins and Mr. Missel were absent)
Committee Reports.
There were none.
Review of Board of Supervisors Meeting: May 29, 2024, and June 5, 2024
Mr. Barnes said that since their last meeting, the Board of Supervisors held two meetings: one on
May 29 and another on June 5. He said that the first meeting was a retreat for the Board,
discussing their work as a unit and the vision for the County. He said that during the meeting on
June 5, Holly Hills was among the matters presented. He said that the Board quickly reviewed
and approved the rezoning. He said that there was a resolution of intent regarding clean fill and
earth and inert materials on the June 5 consent agenda. He said that a zoning ordinance text
amendment was being considered.
AC44 Update
Mr. Barnes said that he would present a framework for how to move forward at the next meeting.
New Business
There was none.
Old Business
Mr. Carrazana said that he had a brief discussion with Mr. Barnes regarding the AC44 project,
which had impacted their schedule. He said that they had discussed how it would be brought back
so that they did not lose the cadence they had developed. He said that they did a lot of work prior
to Mr. Barnes joining staff, and they did not want to lose that work.
Mr. Barnes said that they wanted to ensure there was adequate time to review the materials and
that the agenda was specific and focused.
Mr. Clayborne asked for clarification about the zoning ordinance that had been worked on by
Berkeley Group. He said that they had not seen it in a while, and he was curious about when it
might be presented.
Mr. Barnes said that the zoning ordinance would be significantly impacted by the comprehensive
plan. He said that they would consider what types of districts were necessary and which land use
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changes should be considered. He said that staff had been working on some administrative
aspects, such as non-conformities. He said that they had presented that information at a previous
work session. He said that they would bring it back for final discussion during their next meeting.
Ms. Firehock asked for an update on the solar ordinance.
Mr. Barnes said that they had a meeting last week about the solar ordinance. He said that they
received numerous comments from various individuals. He said that many of these comments
came from people with an environmental focus. He said that there were two distinct groups
represented: one advocating for unrestricted solar installation everywhere (YIMBY group), and
another concerned about other environmental issues such as soils and land use.
Mr. Barnes said that to address this, a meeting was organized where they invited six or seven
different organizations. He said that these included the Piedmont Environmental Council, Farm
Bureau, C3, a UVA professor known for her work on solar, and another individual whose name
he could not remember.
Mr. Barnes said that they were responding to concerns brought up during public outreach. He
said that they brought these groups together to find common ground. He said that the CAPE
department did an excellent job facilitating the discussion, with participants in the same room
talking for several hours. He said that he hoped to provide them with a revised schedule soon,
possibly within the August or September time frame. He said that they had promised the meeting
participants to release that within two to two-and-a-half weeks of review, and afterwards, it would
be provided to the Commission.
Ms. Firehock said she was interested in receiving of the comments made and what issues were
brought up, including the consensus points.
Mr. Barnes said he could provide that.
Mr. Murray said that the Natural Heritage Committee discussed the solar ordinance was, and
there was consensus that the 21-acre by-right solar proposal was problematic. He said that there
was strong consensus for the establishment of avoidance areas. He said that currently, the
Biodiversity Action Plan designated high-quality biodiversity areas and large forest blocks as well
as special sites containing unique resources. He said that these should be explicitly recognized
as avoidance areas in relation to the solar ordinance.
Mr. Barnes said that there was a representative at the forum the other day. He said that their
approach to this matter is to view it as a land use issue. He said that typically, solar is discussed
in terms of how many megawatts are being generated by the site. He said that they aimed to
focus on land use area and impacts associated with neighboring properties, trying to create some
certainty for those who want to develop a solar field. He said that they could add other defining
components.
Mr. Barnes said that they were considering what would happen to parcels if they did not become
residential or agricultural. He said that they were considering properties of 21 acres to be defined
with future parameters. He said that anything above 21 acres would require a special use permit.
Ms. Firehock said that it was worth mentioning that extensive work had been done to model the
highest value habitats. She said that there were specific corridors and connectivity points that
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could be affected by the development on a 21-acre plot. She said that this potential development
might block a major wildlife corridor and cut off its connection in that location. She said that they
had already prioritized those areas as a County in the biodiversity action plan.
Mr. Carrazana said that they should have a work session to consider the changes before they
were finalized.
Mr. Barnes said that they were really trying to find consensus on as many issues as possible. He
said that there would continue to be some issues, such as special use permit requirements and
the size of the developable areas.
Mr. Clayborne asked if projects had been submitted which met the new housing policy requiring
20% affordable housing. He said that every project they received was under the old requirements.
Mr. Barnes said that they had several pre-applications that met the new policy.
Items for follow-up
There were none.
Adjournment
At 8:05 p.m., the Commission adjourned to Tuesday, June 25, 2024, Albemarle County Planning
Commission meeting, 4:00 p.m.
Michael Barnes, Director of Planning
(Recorded by Carolyn S. Shaffer, Clerk to Planning Commission & Planning Boards; transcribed
by Golden Transcription Services)
Approved by Planning
Commission
Date: 07/09/2024
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