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HomeMy WebLinkAboutZMA201300002 Correspondence 2013-07-16 Claudette Grant Nee
From: Claudette Grant
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:35 PM
To: 'Justin Shimp'; David Benish
Cc: McGowan1950; Planning Commission
Subject: RE: Summary of this mornings meeting re: Pantops Corner
Dear Planning Commission,
We are sending you the below e-mail per the request of Justin Shimp. I will also bring copies of this to the
meeting this evening. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you and see you in a few hours.
Claudette Grant
Senior Planner
County of Albemarle
Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902-4596
(434) 296-5832, Ext. 3250
Fax: (434) 972-4126
From: Justin Shimp [mailto:justin©shimp-engineering.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:58 AM
To: Claudette Grant; David Benish
Cc: McGowan1950
Subject: Summary of this mornings meeting re: Pantops Corner
Claudette,
Thanks for taking the time this morning to go over the staff report. I've summarized the issues below and outlined the
changes that we will make to address some of these issues. I am hopeful that this can be passed on the planning
commission before the meeting and brought to their attention at the meeting so they are aware that there are not
many issues remaining to be discussed.
1) Proffers& Permitted Uses: We understand the technical issue with potentially allowing uses by SP. We will
remove that text from the proffer. The uses will be restricted by proffer. In addition to the uses we have already
restricted by proffer the following uses will be added to that list: Building Materials Sales, Light Warehousing.
We will also proffer that no building footprint on the north side of the access road shall exceed 12,000 SF.That
will restrict large buildings on the north side but allow for smaller retail uses (i.e. Rebecca's Natural foods or
similar)
We will also amend the proffers to clearly state that no development of the subject parcel shall occur without an
interparcel connection to route 250. We cannot proffer the exact location of that connection, but can proffer
that it will be made prior to development of the subject parcel.
2) Green Space: We will include a proffer to maintain the area within the floodplain or the 50' zoning buffer
(whichever is greater) as a greenspace within the development. Disturbance to that area would be limited to
only that necessary for road improvements required by VDOT.
3) Neighborhood Model Consideration: As we discussed, we do not have any concrete plans for development
of this parcel. As this property is within the Entrance Corridor the ARB will have full review authority over the
site.Things like pedestrian connectivity, and landscaping are required on the individual site plans per the zoning
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ordinance. We understand the neighborhood model principles are art'ys looked at during a review, but
since this zoning is so small and the only concrete idea we have is to allow for interparcel connection we believe
its most reasonable to let the code (and ARB) deal with the requirements of the neighborhood model once we
actually have an idea for development of the parcel.
4) Traffic: Again, since we don't have any idea of what may be the ultimate development of the parcel it's
difficult to conduct a study to predict any impacts. We do know that with the interparcel connection as
proposed future redevelopment of the corner parcels could occur with better circulation and entrance patterns
than without the connection. We also foresee some traffic being alleviated by the cut through potential of the
required interparcel connection. So we have some offsetting impacts that will help the traffic situation at the
intersection. I think it's also important to consider that the current comp plan designation is high density
residential. While the parcel is small, were it to be developed as residential there is a sure generation of trips. In
a location like this commercial development is targeting pass by trips, if a new retail store went on this site it
would capture trips that would otherwise be going to some other retail store. In theory, the trips would be
redirected to our site because it would yield less overall driving time for the customer.This occurrence could
alleviate some traffic by putting services closer to the routes of consumers. In general, we find that the
theorized commercial trips in traffic studies are often overstated for these reasons.
We hope that this clarifies some of the issues that were addressed in the staff report, perhaps it could be clarified to the
planning commission that one option would be to recommend approval with the added items as promised in this email a
condition of that recommendation.
Again,thanks for the time this morning and let me know if anything remains to be cleared up.
-Justin
Justin M. Shimp, P.E.
President
Shimp Engineering, P.C.
201 E. Main Street, Suite M
Charlottesville,VA 22902
E:Justin@shimp-engineering.com
P: 434-953-6116 (Direct)
P:434-207-8086(Office)
F:804-302-7997
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Claudette Grant
From: Austin, Nathran. (VDOT) [Nathran.Austin @vdot.virginia.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:09 PM
To: Claudette Grant
Subject: ZMA-2013-0002
Claudette,
Looking at this rezoning request,the applicant needs to provide a couple of things for review:
1. The applicant needs to provide an entrance analysis for each of the connections to a State road. No data was
provided for the connection onto Route 250. We need to know if they are proposing to have turn lanes,the
impact of the turn lanes,whether the entrances will be full access,sight distance, etc.
2. All connections to the State roads will need to meet Access Management spacing requirements as defined in
Appendix F of the Road Design Manual.
If you need additional information concerning this project, please feel free to contact me.
Troy Austin, P.E.
Area Land Use Engineer
Virginia Department of Transportation
Land Development—South
Culpeper District
P.O. Box 1017
Troy,VA 22974
Phone: (434) 589-5871
Fax: (434)589-3967
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Claudette Grant
From: Greg Kamptner
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 2:23 PM
To: Claudette Grant
Subject: ZMA 2013-00002 Pantops Corner
Claudette-
Here are my comments to the proffers:
1. Is Road A going to be a public road dedicated to public use, because its ultimate extension will connect Route 20
to Olympia Drive? If so,the proffer needs to provide for that(see numerous previously approved proffers for
acceptable language).The last sentence, providing for an agreement between the owner of this site and TMP
78-6 would indicate otherwise because it provides that access to TMP 78-6 will be provided only if the owner of
that parcel agrees to share the costs of the road.
2. Recommend that the first clause of the proffer be revised from "No Certificate of Occupancy . . . shall be issued"
(which puts a prohibition on the County)to "The Owner shall not request that the County issue a certificate of
occupancy for any building on the north side of Road A until . . . " Isn't the minimum design standard for this
interparcel connection going to be whatever design standard is required by the Subdivision Ordinance or the
Site Plan Ordinance,which is going to be more specific than "safe and convenient access"? If not, can it be
specified in the proffers?
3. First sentence: Change "northern most"to "northernmost," delete the word "being," change "FEMA 100 year
flood hazard overlay area"to "flood hazard overlay district (Albemarle County Code § 18-30.6," identify the
"residential property" by tax map and parcel number, and clarify what is meant by"green space" (i.e., is it
"green space" as that term is defined in the Zoning Ordinance?) Second sentence: I'm not sure this sentence
establishes any quantifiable standard for revegetation because the WPO does not "prescribe" any particular
number or type of trees or shrubs for stream buffer mitigation because I think each mitigation plan reviewed
under the WPO is going to be evaluated under the specific circumstances. Nonetheless, Glenn may have some
guidelines that he uses for mitigation plans.Third sentence:Change "ROW"to "right-of-way."
4. No comments.
5. The proffer should be revised to use the standard format for this kind of proffer. See the revised Avon Park II
proffers(May 27, 2013, proffer 5)for an example.
Greg Kamptner
Deputy County Attorney
County of Albemarle
gkamptner@albemarle.org
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Claudette Grant
From: Claudette Grant
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:45 PM
To: 'McGowan1950'; Justin Shimp
Subject: RE: Pantops Corner
Hello Mike and Justin,
Please find our suggestions and comments regarding the subject project proffers:
1) Claudette: David and I are not as concerned about whether Road "A" is public or private. In this instance, similar to
Stonefield,we believe it is easier for this road to be private because, if it is public it could be difficult to meet VDOT
road standards. We will work that out with the County Attorney.
2) Claudette: Proffer 1: refers to Exhibit C-1 TMP 78-6.This should also refer to TMP 78-5A. Greg: Does the last
sentence of this proffer make the construction of the road contingent on the owners of TMP 78-6 and TMP 78-5A
sharing in the cost of the road, or does it make maintenance of the road contingent on the owners of TMP 78-6 and
TMP 78-5A sharing in that cost?With respect to the access easement that would be granted to"TMP 78-6, and TMP
78-5A"the proffer should clarify that the easement grants a public right of passage over Road A(any vehicle,
pedestrian, bicyclist, etc.).The proffer should state when the road will be completed and include this sentence:
"Construction of Road A shall be deemed complete when the County Engineer determines that the roadway is safe
and convenient for traffic." Note also that the Exhibit C-1 appears to not show Road A going to TMP 78-6 as stated in
the proffer. Claudette: (I think it does show it, but it is difficult to see).
3) Proffer 2:Greg:the proffer should be clear that, as with Proffer 1,the owner(owners)will grant a public right of
passage over the road.Greg:The road should be constructed, bonded and completed by the time the CO is
requested.The first sentence should state this.As with Proffer 1, if completion of construction, rather than bonding,
is needed,the proffer should state that"Construction of the road shall be completed before the Owner requests the
first Certificate of Occupancy" and include this sentence: "Construction of the road shall be deemed complete when
the County Engineer determines that the roadway is safe and convenient for traffic."
4) Proffer 1: Glenn: Language should be added to describe the following:The location and alignment/design of Road
"A" as shown on Exhibit C-1 can be adjusted per approval of the County Engineer. So you understand where Glenn
is coming from here is his actual comment: As a public or private road,the standards do not allow for a series of
right-angles without intersections. Flexibility should be provided for other traffic calming measures if necessary. I
understand the intent is to prevent cut-through traffic.
5) Proffer 2: Glenn:The "connection"should be clarified as both Rt. 20 and Rt. 250, with frontage improvements as
required by VDOT on those public roads.
6) I know you have discussed with Troy-VDOT and agreed to constructing a 4-lane road section for Route 20 along the
frontage of this site to the proposed private street connection. Please provide a proffer that addresses this.
Please let me know if you have questions.Yes,the proffers should be in formal form and delivered to us with date and
signature on Monday.
Thank you
Claudette Grant
From: McGowan1950 [mailto:mcgowan19500gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:35 AM
To: Justin Shimp
Cc: Claudette Grant
Subject: Re: Pantops Corner
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Claudette, l"" "''`
If there are issues we could be addressing, please send us them. If your review leads to dismissing them later,we will
understand.
Thanks,
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:14 PM,Justin Shimp<justin @shimp-engineering.com>wrote:
Thanks Claudette, I understand that the proffers need to be in final substantive form by the end of the
day Monday is that correct?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 14, 2013,at 5:37 PM, Claudette Grant<cgrant @albemarle.org>wrote:
Justin,
I have reviewed the comments I have, but need to make sure they are not contradicting
each other. I will get what I have to you tomorrow. I am also still waiting on one set of
comments. I hope I will have them tomorrow, so I can send you all the comments at the
same time.Thank you
Claudette
From: Justin Shimp [mailto:justin(ashimp-engineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:43 AM
To: Claudette Grant
Cc: Michael
Subject: Pantops Corner
Claudette,
I spoke with Glenn last night about pantops corner, it sounds like he is generally OK with
the proposal but mentioned that the county attorney had some comments that might
be an issue. Could you forward those to me so I can see them?
Thanks!
Justin M. Shimp, P.E.
President
Shimp Engineering, P.C.
201 E. Main Street,Suite M
Charlottesville,VA 22902
E:Justin@shimp-engineering.com
P: 434-953-6116(Direct)
P:434-207-8086(Office)
F:804-302-7997
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Claudette Grant
From: Greg Kamptner
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:07 AM
To: Claudette Grant; Glenn Brooks; Amelia McCulley
Subject: Pantops Corner ZMA
Claudette-
Here are my comments to the proffers:
1. Under the Subdivision Ordinance and the Site Plan Ordinance,the County can require Road A to be dedicated to
public use, be a public right of way,and be extended to the property line so I'm not certain what this proffq is S 0
achieves,other than that the County knows it will at least get a private road in that general location.1 7w'
enabling authority for this requirement is VC 15.2-2241(2)and (4).poes the last sentence of this proffer make I`'
the construction of the road contingent on the owner of TMP 78-6 sharing in the cost of the road,or does it
make maintenance of the road contingent on the owner of TMP 78-6 sharing in that cost?With respect to the
access easement that would be granted to "TMP 78-6,"the proffer should clarify that the easement grants a
public right of passage over Road A(any vehicle, pedestrian, bicyclist, etc.).The proffer should state when the
road will be completed and include this sentence: "Construction of Road A shall be deemed complete when the
County Engineer determines that the roadway is safe and convenient for traffic." Note also that the Exhibit Qvu..
on the back of the proffer statement does not show Road A going to TMP 78-6 as stated in the proffer. j.) �1p/ 1„b'
2. Same comment as in the first two sentences of my comment to Proffer 1. If this is a private road, it will be a
private road serving as an interconnection to two public roads,which is not desirable. If it is to be a private road,
the proffer should be clear that,as with Proffer 1,the owner(owners)will grant a public right of passage over
the road. Is it acceptable for this road merely to be bonded rather than completed by the time the CO is C41
requested?As with Proffer 1, if completion of construction, rather than bonding, is needed,the proffer should
state that"Construction of the road shall be completed before the Owner requests the first Certificate of
Occupancy" and include this sentence: "Construction of the road shall be deemed complete when the County
Engineer determines that the roadway is safe and convenient for traffic."
Greg Kamptner
Deputy County Attorney
County of Albemarle
gkamptner@albemarle.org
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Claudette Grant
From: Austin, Nathran. (VDOT) [Nathran.Austin @vdot.virginia.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:10 AM
To: Claudette Grant
Subject: ZMA201300002 Pantops Corner
Claudette,
I have reviewed the revised Proffer Statement for Pantops Corner and offer the following comments:
1. In a meeting with VDOT,the owner and design engineer agreed to constructing a 4-lane road section for Route
20 along the frontage of this site to the proposed private street connection. The exhibit shows this in vague
detail,so it may warrant including this in the proffer verbage.
If you need additional information concerning this project, please let me know.
Troy Austin, P.E.
Area Land Use Engineer
Virginia Department of Transportation
Land Development—South
Culpeper District
P.O. Box 1017
Troy,VA 22974
Phone: (434) 589-5871
Fax: (434) 589-3967
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