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Home My WebLink AboutARB201600004 Correspondence 2016-01-27 NNW Patricia Saternye From: Peter Welch <sawdust434 @yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday,January 27, 2016 1:19 PM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: Re:Crozet Library Sign White background= R-249, G-252, B-249, PMS 656C Brown letters all routed,= R-130, G-73, B-44, PMS 168C Yellow Pantone 13OC CMYK: 0, 40, 100, 0 Hex: #FAA61A RGB: 250 166 26 Brown Pantone 168C CMYK: 50, 80, 100, 15 Hex: # 82492C RGB: 130 73 44 Green Pantone 368C CMYK: 50, 0, 100, 10 Hex: # 7FB539 RGB: 127 181 57 Blue Pantone 801C CMYK: 100, 5, 20, 0 Hex: # O0A5C7 RGB: 0 165 199 John Halliday, Library Director Jefferson-Madison Regional Library 201 East Market Street, Charlottesville Virginia 22902 Tel: 434-979-7151 ext.2O6; Fax 434-979-0278 Best, Peter LEGACY SIGNS Peter Welch 6343 Hillsboro Lane 1 Crozet, VA 22932 Mobile 434 327-7824 crozetsigns.corn From: Patricia Saternye<psaternye @albemarle.org> To: "sawdust434 @yahoo.com"<sawdust434 @yahoo.com> Cc: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski @albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:25 AM Subject: FW: Crozet Library Sign Mr. Welch, Thank you for the additional information. In evaluating the completeness of your submission we found one additional bit of information, in reference to the colors on the sign, which we request you to supply. In reference to the color id numbers, for the Entrance Corridor Requirements, please forward the Pantone or Pantone equivalent numbers for all colors on the sign including the colors in the JMRL logo. We noticed that you included a "Pantone DS" number for the brown letters. Unfortunately we were unable to find reference to that number and it is our understanding that the color series was discontinued in 2010. We therefore have no formula guide to reference it and request that you supply an equivalent Pantone number that is current. We look forward to receiving this additional information from you and moving forward with your submission. Sincerely, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development t Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a�albemarle.orq www.albemarle.orq From: Peter Welch [mailto:sawdust434(�yahoo.coml Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:02 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski(a�albemarle.orq>; Bill Schrader<LVRBRO(c�embargmail.com>; John Halliday <halliday(a�imrl.orq> Subject: Re: Crozet Library Sign Margaret, The sign( or column) will be 1 ft. from the building. We have discussed other options for the sign, but the Library is quite insistent on having stone columns to match the building. 2 Yes, it will be crowded. When we got started on this sign project, the county assured the library board that no permit was needed, no fees would be levied and the only restriction would be the setback requirement. We played with different post options and finally made the columns smaller to get the set back. We purchased the stone and had the sign fabricated, believing that the set back issue was the only one we were dealing with. We were waiting for you all to come and check the set back, (we had a full size pattern on the ground at the library) so we could dig the footers and continue. All the elements for the sign have been purchased, we can't change the sign size. Best, Peter LEGACY SIGNS Peter Welch 6343 Hillsboro Lane Crozet, VA 22932 Mobile 434 327-7824 crozetsigns.com From: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski @albemarle.orq> To: "sawdust434 @yahoo.com"<sawdust434 @yahoo.com>; Bill Schrader<LVRBRO @embargmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:44 PM Subject: Crozet Library Sign Peter and Bill, I am reviewing the Crozet Library Sign application for the ARB. The submittal information shows that the proposed sign is located very close to the building. Can you tell me exactly how far from the building the closest stone pier would be? It looks like the overall size of the sign (the panel and the piers) and the proximity of the sign to the building will result in a cramped appearance. A sign panel on a stone base would take up less length than the panel between two piers and would result in a less crowded appearance. A sign panel supported by two posts, rather than piers, would also free up some space for a less crowded appearance. (The downtown Charlottesville library sign, pictured below, uses posts.) Have you considered options such as these? Margaret Margaret M.Maliszewski,Principal Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road,Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3276 3 aCj::.‹.,SIE 1 LIBRA Y k i 4 t 4 4 ' Patricia Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday,January 26, 2016 11:26 AM To: sawdust434 @yahoo.com Cc: Margaret Maliszewski Subject: FW: Crozet Library Sign Mr. Welch, Thank you for the additional information. In evaluating the completeness of your submission we found one additional bit of information, in reference to the colors on the sign, which we request you to supply. In reference to the color id numbers,for the Entrance Corridor Requirements, please forward the Pantone or Pantone equivalent numbers for all colors on the sign including the colors in the JMRL logo. We noticed that you included a "Pantone DS" number for the brown letters. Unfortunately we were unable to find reference to that number and it is our understanding that the color series was discontinued in 2010. We therefore have no formula guide to reference it and request that you supply an equivalent Pantone number that is current. We look forward to receiving this additional information from you and moving forward with your submission. Sincerely, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development yl Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Peter Welch [mailto:sawdust434 @yahoo.com] Sent:Wednesday,January 20, 2016 10:02 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski @albemarle.org>; Bill Schrader<LVRBRO@embargmail.com>;John Halliday <halliday @jmrl.org> Subject: Re: Crozet Library Sign Margaret, The sign( or column) will be 1 ft. from the building. We have discussed other options for the sign, but the Library is quite insistent on having stone columns to match the building. Yes, it will be crowded. 1 When we got started on this sign project, the county assured the library board that no permit was needed, no fees would be levied and the only restriction would be the setback requirement. We played with different post options and finally made the columns smaller to get the set back. We purchased the stone and had the sign fabricated, believing that the set back issue was the only one we were dealing with. We were waiting for you all to come and check the set back, (we had a full size pattern on the ground at the library) so we could dig the footers and continue. All the elements for the sign have been purchased, we can't change the sign size. Best, Peter LEGACY SIGNS Peter Welch 6343 Hillsboro Lane Crozet, VA 22932 Mobile 434 327-7824 crozetsigns.coin From: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski nalbemarle.orq> To: "sawdust434(avahoo.com"<sawdust434avahoo.com>; Bill Schrader<LVRBRO q(�embargmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:44 PM Subject: Crozet Library Sign Peter and Bill, I am reviewing the Crozet Library Sign application for the ARB. The submittal information shows that the proposed sign is located very close to the building. Can you tell me exactly how far from the building the closest stone pier would be? It looks like the overall size of the sign (the panel and the piers) and the proximity of the sign to the building will result in a cramped appearance. A sign panel on a stone base would take up less length than the panel between two piers and would result in a less crowded appearance. A sign panel supported by two posts, rather than piers, would also free up some space for a less crowded appearance. (The downtown Charlottesville library sign, pictured below, uses posts.) Have you considered options such as these? Margaret Margaret M. Maliszewski, Principal Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3276 2 n.r 1 LIBRARY f , w ., 1 .. 7,•m ►a , z _ 1 • A 3 Z Noe Margaret Maliszewski From: Peter Welch <sawdust434 @yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:02 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski; Bill Schrader; John Halliday Subject: Re: Crozet Library Sign Margaret, The sign( or column) will be 1 ft. from the building. We have discussed other options for the sign, but the Library is quite insistent on having stone columns to match the building. Yes, it will be crowded. When we got started on this sign project, the county assured the library board that no permit was needed, no fees would be levied and the only restriction would be the setback requirement. We played with different post options and finally made the columns smaller to get the set back. We purchased the stone and had the sign fabricated, believing that the set back issue was the only one we were dealing with. We were waiting for you all to come and check the set back, (we had a full size pattern on the ground at the library) so we could dig the footers and continue. All the elements for the sign have been purchased, we can't change the sign size. Best, Peter Ll-,GACY SIGNS Peter Welch 6343 l Ii l Isboro Lane Crozet. VA 22932 Mobile 434 327-7824 croretsigns.com From: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski @albemarle.org> To: "sawdust434 @yahoo.com" <sawdust434 @yahoo.com>; Bill Schrader<LVRBRO @embarqmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:44 PM Subject: Crozet Library Sign Peter and Bill, I am reviewing the Crozet Library Sign application for the ARB. The submittal information shows that the proposed sign is located very close to the building. Can you tell me exactly how far from the building the closest stone pier would be? It looks like the overall size of the sign (the panel and the piers) and the proximity of the sign to the building will result in a cramped appearance. A sign panel on a stone base would take up less length than the panel between two piers and would result in a less crowded appearance. A sign panel supported by two posts, rather than piers, would also free up some space for a less crowded 1 m appearance. (The downtown Charlottesville library sign, pictured below,uses posts.) Have you considered options such as these? Margaret Margaret M. Maliszewski, Principal Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3276 LIBRARY 1 ' , 2