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October 11, 1979 (Adjourned from October_ _$.0 , 1~79)
An adjourned meeting of the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle County, Virginia~ was
held on October ll, 1979,'at 1:30 P.M. in the Board Room of the County Office Building,
Charlottesville, Virginia; said meeting being adjourned from OCtober 10, 1979.
Present: Messrs. Lindsay G. Dorrier, Jr. (arriving at 1:50 P.M.), Gerald E. Fisher,
J. T. Henley, Jr.(arriving at 2:17 P1M.), F. Anthony Iachetta (arriving at 2:35 P.M.)
C. Timothy Lindstrom, and W. S. Roudabush.
Absent: None.
Officers Present: County Executive Guy B. Agnor, Jr.; County Attorney George R.
St. John; and County Planner, Robert W. Tucker, Jr.
Agenda Item No. 1. The meeting was called to order at 1:52 P.M. by the Chairman.
Agenda Item No. 2. Work Session: Comprehensive Plan Amendments.
a) Staff report on Neighborhoods i and 7. Mr. Fisher then called for the staff report
which had been requested by the Board at their meeting on September 19, 1979.
Mr. J. Harvey Bailey, County Engineer read the following into the record:
DEVELOPMENT OF SLOPES UNDER THE
RUNOFF CONTROL ORDINANCE
The following is an analysis of the effect of slopes on the density of develop-
ment that may be achieved un,er the County's Runoff Control Ordinance. The area
of this study is the area of the Urban Area which lies within the South Rivanna
Reservoir watershed as described in the County's Comprehensive Plan.
Under,the provisions of the Runoff Control Ordiannce, the post-development losses
of sediment and phosphorus from a development shall not exceed the losses under
the areas predevelopment condition, but in no case shall the post-development.
losses exceed 135 pounds per acre per year of solids or 0.68 of phosphorus. Guide-
lines are provided by the County by which a developer may compute these losses
and, also, descriptions of devices and practices by which such losses may be
controlled in order to meet the required local limitations.
Anyone who engages in computing the sediment and phosphorus losses of the
post-development p~riod will quickly see thZt the phosphorus losses are the
more significant. For this reason, the calculations in this study are confined to
that element. The control of the rate of run-off of stormwater is also required
under the ordinance. In general, this is not as difficult to achieve as is the
control of phosphorus and, therefore, is not treated herein. This study assumes
that land is available for the site of whatever treatment structures may be required,
a condition which is not likely to be found on every individual property within the
study area.
The removal of sediment and phosphorus from stormwater is limited by practical
considerations. The guidelines of the ordinance indicate that a maximum of 50%
of suspended solids and 75% of phosphorus may be accomplished under ideal conditions.
For the purpose of this study, it is assumed that 33% of the solids and 50% of
the total phosphorus can be removed. Based on this assumption, the maximum loadings
which may be successfully treated are:
135/.67 : 202#/Ac./Yr. Sediment
0.68/.50 : 1.36#/Ac./Yr. Total Phosphorus
The Ordinance Guidelines, Section B-2, Calculations of Sediment and Total phosphorus
Run,~ff Characteristics for Developed Site Conditions, give the following equation
by which Total Phosphorus may be computed:
Lp = P(LS) (Sd)
When Lp = Total phosphorus loading in pounds per acre per year
P = total phosphorus loading factor in #/Ac./Yr.
t~~to~g~a~idf~a~'~dimensionless
Sd = the sediment delivery ratio, dimensionless
Values of P vary with density of development and values of LS, with slope and slope
length. Tables are provided in the Guidelines for these factors. Table One of this
study gives a tabulation of total phosphorus loading for ~rious conditions of slope,
slope length and density of development.
TABLE ONE
RELATIONSHIP OF SLOPE TO
DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT
SLOPE
LENGTH OF SLOPE
DENSITY DU/AC
TOTAL PHOSPHORUS
#/AC/YR
REMARKS
6
6
8
8
10
2000'
1000'
2000'
100O'
1000'
Shopping Center
1.20
~Strip Commercial 1.15
16+ 1.31
Shopping Center 1.28
16+ 1.31
Acceptable for 16 or
more Du/Ac or Shopping
Center
Acceptable for Strip
Commercial
Acceptable for 16 or
more Du/Ac
Acceptable for Shopping
Center
Acceptable for 16 or
more Du/Ac
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TOTAL PHOSPHORUS
% SLOPE LENGTH 0~ SLOPE DENSITY DU/AC
12 300' 16+ 1.26
12 600' 14 1.36
12 1000' 7 1.28
12 2000' 3 1.35
REMARKS ~
Acceptable for 16 or
more Du/Ac
Acceptable for 14 Du/Ac
Acceptable for 7 Du/Ac
Acceptable for 3 DU/Ac
14 200' 15+ 1.31
14 500' 8 1.36
14 1000' 4 1.~6
14 2000' 2 1.07
Acceptable for 153Du/Ac
Acceptable for 8 Du/Ac
Acceptable for ~ Du/Ac
Acceptable for 2 Du/Ac
16 200' 8 1.36
16 500' 4 1.40
16 1000' 2 0.97
16 2000' 2 1.33
Aceeptable for 8 Du/Ac
Acceptable for 4 Du/Ac
Acceptable for 2 Du/Ac
Acceptable for 2 Du/Ac
18 200' 5 1.39
18 500' 2 0.98
18 1000' 2 2.17
18 2000' 1 1.29
Acceptable for 5 Du/Ac
Acceptable for 2 Du/Ac
AccePtable for 2 Du/Ac
Acceptable for 1 Du/Ac
There are approximately 2462 acres of the designated Urban Area within the watershed
of the South Rivanna Reservoir. A study of a map which was prepared by the Planning
Department to show slopes, shows the following breakdown:
SLOPES ACREAGE % OF TOTAL AREA
0-15 1304 53.1
15-25 527 21.3
above 25 631 25.6
The most desirable slopes are concentrated on State Routes 654, 657, 743, and 631.
Approaching the reservoir and Ivy Creek, the slopes are steeper and the terrain
is more fragmented. There are several cliffs along the margin of the reservoir.
The belt of gentle slopes is particularly narrow along State Rmute 631. By no means
are all of the 0-15% slopes conducive to development, since many small parcels are
surrounded by steep slopes.
There is a considerable acreage of 0-15% slopes that can accommodate high density
development and comply with the requirements of the Runoff Control Ordinance.
However, high density development requires that both water and sewerage be available
to the area of development. A pump station would be required for any individual
development or an interceptor through this area could service a number of subdivisions,
conveying their wastewaters to a major pump station from which a single force line
would carry the wastewater across the ridge into the Meadow Creek basin. Such
installations'are relatively expensive because state regulations require duplications
of pumps and power sources. They are also energy users and require constant
maintenance. These drawbacks do not rule out the use of sewage pump stations and
force mains; they are merely less attractive than gravity flow installations.
Several pump stations are already present in the area under discussion, notably those
serving 01d Salem, Georgetown Green and the county schools. In addition, that part
of Hessian Hills Subdivision which is located in the watershed is in need of sewerage.
The Albemarle County Service Authority has made a study relative to service of an
area roughly from Barracks Road (State Route 654) to Lambs Road (State Route 657),
lying on either side of Barracks Road and Lambs Road. This service would be
located at an elevation which would collect wastewater from Hessian Hills and could
possibly eliminate the pump stations now serving Georgetown Green.
Without the use of the Runoff Control Ordinance, developments within this area would
be limited by the amount of impervious area they introduced, i.e., to 5% or less of
the develaped area.. In practice, this requires lot sizes of two acres or greater.
October ~ 1979 i{Ad~ourned from October
Area~
Mr. Bailey said ~in the report is a bable of values which correlates densities and
distance. It is assumed that any development that can take place that does not produce more
than 1.36 pounds per acre per year of phosphorus can be treated so the results leaving the
site will be 0.68 pounds per year. Under that condition, if the slopes do not exceed 6%
and 2,000 feet in length, which none of the slopes in this area do, the land can be developed
to any of the densities shown on the Urban Area land use plan, except for strip commercial.
Mr. Bailey said there are about 2,462 acres which were studied. Of that amount, 1,304 acres,
or 53%, have slopes that do not exceed 15%; 527 acres have slopes of 15% to 25%; and 631
acres have slopes above 25%. The 631 acres would be excluded from any type of development
because of restrictions in the Soil Erosion Ordinance. The study shows that less than
55% of the 1,304 acres could be used for development because of fragmentation of the area.
There is no way of telling how property ownerships split the slopes that are shown. If the
Board chooses to show densities that would be permitted under the Runoff Control Ordinance,
public utilities would have to be furnished, and this would be entirely a sewage pumping
operation. Pumping stations are more expensive, both th construct and operate, than gravity
flow systems. Nevertheless, that is not to discourage the use of such systems, because it
is still economical to use pumping if it is not too deep within the property. There are
already in existence in this area several pumping stations with respect to disposal of
wastewater; namely Old Salem Apartments, Georgetown Green and the County Schools. There
has also bean some interest shown by people in the area, particularly in Hessian Hills, of
securing a pumping station for sewage disposal and the Albemarle County Service Authority
has made a preliminary study on the question. Without the use of the guidelines in the
Runoff Control Ordinance (provisions whereby overloading of solids and phosphorus may be
corrected), any development would be limited to the 5% of the impervious surface which is
exempted in the runoff control ordinance. Translated into general practice, this wm~ld mean
October 11~ 1979 (Adjourned from October 1A 1979)
Mr. Fisher asked if Mr. Bailey meant that any density greater than one dwelling unit
per two acres would.come under the provisions of the Runoff Control Ordinance. Mr? Bailey
said yes, the Runoff Control Ordinance covers this area and without resorting to-corrective
measures provided in the~ordinance, land would not be exempted unless less than 5% w~re ~
being developed. Mr. Fisher asked what kind of control measures were assumed to come up
with this removal factor. Mr. Bailey said it was not limited to any particular structure
since it would be impossible to make assretions until there were a specific plan to study.
Mr. Fisher said Mr. Roudabush had done an analysis of some of the lands in the area
and had come to the conclusion that a maximum density of about one ~welling unit per acre
could be allowed on some of the terrain. He asked Mr. Roudabush if that correlated with
the figures Mr. Bailey had given today. Mr. Roudabush said he felt it did. Mr. Fisher
said if the Board were to use this analysis as a basis for setting maximum densities,
maps would have to be studied to see where these densities could be placed on slopes of less
than 15%. Mr. Tucker said the staff would need to evaluate this further.
Mr. Linds~rom'said he had no objection to the staff making such a study, but he felt
this demonstrates the tortuous course Which the Board must follow to include the watershed
area in the Urban Area of the County. The Runoff Control Ordinance does not specifically
address development as it occurs, but only in the developed state. He is aware that the
Soil Erosion Ordinance does address the developing stage, but from the analysis presented
today, the area does not lend itself to any one kind of impoundment device to provide for
sedimentation. Topography in this area is broken up in such a way that it would require
many devices if developed to an urban density. These devices would be privately owned and
maintained. While in theory the devices called for in the ordinance may be accomplished,
administering the installation of the devices and then maintaining and overseeing them
after the developer has completed a subdivision would be almost an impossibility. The
Crozet community is in the South Fork Rivanna watershed, but the distinction in Crozet is
that the topography lends itself to one sediment basin that could serve a significant part
of the community. That sediment basin could be maintained at public expense to insure its
effectiveness. That cannot be done with a topography in this part of the County. Mr.
Lindstrom said he cannot see the County successfully including the watershed area in the
Urban Area. Also the ecomomics are not present for providing water and sewer to this
kind of a fragmented area. He did not think that taking the watershed area out of the
urban area will preclude it from being provided with the kind of utilities needed for
development. Mr. Fisher asked Mr. Lindstrom when he spoke about having many structures on
private property if he were speaking of the ~evelopment stage. Mr. Lindstrom said no,
post-development stage. Mr. Fisher said the post-development stage will be maintained
at publio expense. The only~hhing that has not been agreed to with the City is how this
expense will be paid. Mr. Lindstrom said that question is still unanswered and he has reserva.
tions about the County's ability to successfully deal with this kind of problem. Mr.
Lindstrom said about one-half of this area does not lend itself to urban densities at all,
and the areas that do lend themselves to development are fragmented. The County is not
lacking for any~density in the Urban Area. The maps show that She carrying capacity of
the Urban Area is 60,000 and all that is planned for in the way of population in the next
twenty years is 13,000.
(Mr. Henley arrived at 2:17 P.M.) Mr. Dottier said that he shares some of the concerns,
but the Board has been advised by the engineers that these devices will work. The devices
should eithe~ be tested or the ordinance changed since developers are depending on what has
been written for guidelines for future development. If this area is deleted from the
Urban Area just because the Board feels the ordinance will not work, the ordinance shOuld
be scrapped for the whole watershed.
Mr. Lindstrom noted that at Rivanwood subdivision, there were four run-off control de-
vices. During one of the recent rains, three of those devices w~re not functioning in
the way he felt they should. Rivanwood is a small subdivision and not that much develop~
ment has taken place at this time. Also, the lots are all in exces~ Of two acres, When
you think of the density that the Board is trying to achieve ~n the. urb~u~,~e~'and the
pressure which will be put on these devices, Mr. L~nd~t~.om said he'~doe~ not feel that
the County will be successful. Thi~bmingahfm~c~ ~o t~e argument that he cannot see the
Boamd successfully including~ki~ pamt 'of the County in the Urban Area, and he feels it
should be removed~
M~. Fishe~. asked Mr.' Bailey if he had noted the failure of the device's at Rivanwood.
Mr. Bailey said~the' engineering department staff had looked at these structures at the
instructions of the consultant. The engineering staff interpreted what happened and the
purpose of the retention pond differently from what Mr. Lindstrom has said. In this instance,
the control of removal of solids and phosphorus depends not on the ponds, but on seeding
and sodding. Rivanwood is typical of some of the better lands in the area. The slopes
are not violent. The land is more rolling and does not have phonounced draws eroded into
it. The design of the basins was for the control of the rate of run-off. Rates of run-off
vary with intensities and the staff had fixed upon a return frequency of a ten-year storm ~
on which the structure was designed. It is obvious from observations around the area that
the two storms which occurred recently were in excess of the ten-year frequency. This
system had beengraded around the ends of the dam fairly close to the period of this Storm
and the areas had been seeded and there had been some partial germination, but it had not
established and the loose material washed out. Mr. Bailey said he did not personally inspect
the damage but it was inspected by a member from the staff of the engineering department
and a soil erosion inspector. Their view was that there was no failure, but this was an
instance where the grass sod had not established to ~abilize emergency run-off. These
devices are to cure the long-range problems but they will not cure every situation.
Mr. Roudabush said even if the Runoff Control Ordinance provisions are set aside,
there is no way, under the current zoning ordinance, that Shm could get four dwelling units
per acre, attached or in one building. It could be done on a multitude of acres, but when
the structures required under the Runoff Contr.ol Ordinance are taken into account, these
densities are not obtainable except on larger sites. The number of sites that could be
developed at that density would be very few.
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Mr. Fisher said he understands that Mr. Lindstrom would like to exclude the whole
watershed area from the Urban Araa of the plan, but he is not ready to make that decision.
The staff has made the report that was requested of them, but he did not know what impact
this analysis would have made on the recommendations, of the Planning Commission. Mr.
Tucker asked for a clarification from the Board. He said that what the Board sees on the
Urban Area map at this meeting, does not show the Planning Commission's recommendations.
The map shows the committee's recommendations. The Planning Commission recommended one
dwelling unit per acre for all of the area in the watershed and deleted all of the high
density zoning. He asked if the staff was to take the analysis presented by Mr. Bailey,
assume that everything in the area will be one dwelling unit per acre, and then try to
find areas that would be suited for higher density, or make the same assumptions using
the committee's recommendations on densities. (Dr. Iachetta arrived at 2:35 P.M.). Mr.
Roudabush said he felt the staff should use the Planning Commission's recommendation with
the information presented today to see if the Planning Commission's recommendation is
valid. Mr. Fisher said the Planning Commission recommended a blanket one dwelling unit
per acre density and the limitation should be on the higher densities. Mr. Bailey said
it would appear that some factor other than slopes and the Runoff Control Ordinance should
be the deciding factor on density. Mr. Fisher said the staff should pick for study,
one piece of undeveloped, high density land and see what effect this analysis would have
on the density on that parcel of land. Mr. Roudabush said that sooner or later the
Board will have to make a definite decision on the density for the strip of land along
the edge of the reservoir. Mr. Fisher said the last time the Board looked at this area,
they had decided that one-acre density would be correct for that area. Mr. Roudabush
said no decision was made at that time. Mr. Bailey said there are other things to
consider for the lands far-removed from Hydraulic Road. If a density is to be applied
that requires sewage, it will be very costly since it will require pumping stations.
Mr. Lindstrom said if densities are applied that require sewage, the sewer lines would
be run through a great deal of land that would not be suitable to densities that need
utilities. Mr. Lindstrom then requested that Mr. Bailey report at the October 24 meeting
on which are&s designated for high density development in Neighborhoods i and ? cannot be
served by gravity sewage flow. Also, at the October l? meeting, Mr. Bailey was requested
to report on the feasibility of an impoundment on Lickinghole Creek. Mr. Agnor noted
that the areas which cannot be served by gravity sewage flow were outlined in the five-year
pollution abatement program when the analysis for the Crozet interceptor and sewer plant
for the Rivanna Water and Sewer Authority was made. The boundary lines for the Albemarle
County Service Authority were designed around gravity flow of sewage on the south side of
the Urban Area. Mr. Roudabush asked if the Liakinghole Creek impoundment would be looked
at both as a flood control and water impoundment structure. Mr. Bailey said he did not
think the two ~hings cuuld be separated. The reduction of solids depends on how long
you can hold these solids to achieve sedimentation.
Agenda Item No. 2c. Public Hearing: Neighborhood Number 4. (Public hearing on the
Planning Commission's recommendation that the Biscuit Run area be added to the urban area
of the Comprehensive Plan. Notice of this public hearing was advertised in the Daily
Progress on October 9 and October 10, 1979.)
Mr. Tucker began by giving the staff report which is set out in full in Minute-Book 18,
pages 85 and 86, September 19, 1979. Mr. Dorrier asked how utilities fit into this area.
Mr. Tucker said it is a natural area for gravity flow of sewage. Mr. Agnor noted that the
design of Interstate 64 accommodated a box under that route for a sewer line. This was
done because there was an obligation on the purchase of property for the National Guard
Armory by the owners of Reynovia Lake to sewer all 'of the Reynovia property. This
commitment was made a number of years ago by the City and was passed on to the Albemarle
County Service Authority when they obtained the system. Dr. Iachetta asked ~the criteria
used to designate the Reynovia area as a park. Mr. Tucker said that area was shown as
a park in the 19?l Comprehensive Plan and he believes the consultants Just carried it over
to this plan.
At this time, the public~hearing was opened. Miss Ellen Nash said the proposed
road connecting Route 20 with Route 631 seems to~ be rather arbitrary. It would be more
logical to have the intersection where Avon Street runs into Route 20. She also asked
about the commercial area shown~--Mr. Dorrier said he liked the idea of having commercial
off of Route 20. It appears to be fairly well hidden from view, and would be off of the
main stretch of road.
Mrs. Treva Cromwell said she was not clear about the source of drinking water for
this area and she ha~ heard that this area has a poor groundwater supply.
Miss Nash said she was troubled by the timing of this proposal and felt it was
overplanning at this time. With Route 631 in its present condition, it would be impossible
to put more traffic on~hhat road. Route 20 is dangerous and the hope of any road
improvements for the next five years is very slim. She could not see planning now to
put this density in this area with the present roads~
Mr. Fisher said the Board has agreed that all maps in these revisions will be dated
1995 to show ~.he timing of the plan. If this area is included invthe Comprehensive Plan
and the road and utility systems are deemed to be adequate, there are liable to be
requests for changes in zoning much sooner than 1995. Mr. Dottier said the Board has
already seen plans for improvements of Route 6~1, and while no timetable has been set for
the improvements, the plans have been drawn and are ready for funding. Mr. Fisher noted
that there are no design drawings. Mr. Tucker said an alignment has been chosen and that
alignment is shown on the large map of the Urban Area. Mr. Dorrier asked what timetable
has been set for these improvements. Mr. Tucker said they are not scheduled in the
foreseeable future. The alignment-has been chosen, but these improvements would first
have to be included in the Six-Year Highway plan. Dr. Iachetta said there is not enough
money in the six-year plan to do the work that needs to be done. This section of Route 631
is also a part of the CATS committee recommendations. The CATS study is projected through
the year 2000. Mr. Dottier said improvements have been made to Rmute 20 South section by
section, and eventually improvements will be completed on the entire length from Charlottes-
ville to Scottsville.
October 11, 1979 (Adjourned from October 10, 1~7_9)
Mr. Roudabush asked if the Highway Department had looked at this proposed connector
between Route 631 and Route 20. rMr. Tucker said no, th2 alignment and location are similar
to that proposed under the Biscuit Run Plan (SP-78-15;~ June 1978) and the Highway Department
had looked at the design of that proposal.
Mr. Lindstrom said even if the carrying capacity in Neighborhood 7 is reduced, he could
see no compelling reason to add that population elsewhere. He said Miss Nash had a good
point. The roads in this area are not adequate and it would be unrealistic to think that
the County can provide the necessary roads. He agrees that there is a need for commercial
development on the south side of town.
Mr. Dorrier said he has always advocated more commercial development in a certain
area south of Charlottesville, His concern is that this whole tract of land could be sold
at any time and subdivided. If that is done, he feels the County should have some guidelines
for development so that the whole area does not end up in two-acre lots. This area is
presently undeveloped, but in the future will be developed. The County has an opportunity
now to influence what will happen in the area. If the County says the area should not
develop that is one thing, but if nothing is done, he feels the County will be loosing an
opportunity to control what will happen intthe area, particularly since the public utilities
are so ~lose. Dr. Iachetta said there is no chance that this area can be served by sewage
disposal until 1982 and it is not far beyond that date when the Comprehensive Plan will
have to be reappraised in its entirety. Since nothing can happen in the area until the
AWT Plant is completed, he sees no urgency to add a~ditional land to the Urban Area if
there is no good reason to do so from a planning point of view. Mr. Henley said it is a
natural area for growth because public water is already available, but he could see no
reason to include it at this time.
Mr. Gaston Fornes said he was in favor of this area being included as part of the Urban
Area. It is in a good location for sewerage facilities and is not far from the City
boundary. He feels it is well served by roads since Interstate 64 borders the area. Mr.
Fornes said he has lived in the area for eighteen years and it is a beautiful valley. The
valley itself is free from slopes and there are lots of building sites available.
Mr. Rey Barry said the area could be developed in single-family homes, but basically
it is a large tract of land under one ownership. There is some development taking place
east of Route 631 at present and there are proposals for further development. To fail to
take that into account could cause two-acre, strip development and a lot of other things
that the County does not find desirable. Mr. Fisher said just because someone owns a
piece of land they want to develop, the county cannot be put in a position of planning
how to get water, sewer and roads into the area. The County is to look at the public
interest, and the landowners intent at this stage~aannot be the controlling factor.
Mr. Lindstrom said just because there is developable land in the area does not mean
that this area should be included on the Urban Area map. Mr. Dottier said he felt any
plan for a large development would come under the RPN category in the zoning ordinance,
but without any master plan to guide the County, the area may end up with a hodge-podge
from a planning standpoint. He did not think the County should encourage development,
but try to influence its final shape. Dr. Iachetta said he could agree somewhat with the
intention of the Planning Commission. If they felt a need to shift the lost population
in Neighborhoods i and 7 to another area in the County, it was obvious that they should
look at an area where lift stations were not needed for sewage treatment. Mr. Roudabush
said the argument that this area cannot be ~eveloped until the sewer is available in 1982
should not be used, since the Crozet community plan is all predicated on the interceptor
line being built and that is much further off in time.
The public hearing was closed at 3:38 P.M.
P.M.
The Board recessed and reconvened at 3:43
Agenda Item No. 2b. Neighborhood Number 3. (New ~ap on ~g~ p~age. )
Mr. Tucker noted that the property to the west of the dark dashed line can be served
by gravity sewage. According to the County Engineer, even the areas to the east that would
have to have sewage pumped back to the interceptor would then have flow by gravity to the
treatment plant; Dr. Iachetta said it appears that about 30% of this neighborhood would
require a lift station. Mr. Tucker noted that the staff had shown on this map a medium
density buffer between Glenorchy Subdivision and the adjacent high density.
Mr. James Hill was present and noted that the owner of the Pantops property has already
planned to put in sewer lines and has sized that sewer line at twenty-four inches to take
care of this property and the property on the northeast side of Route 250. Mr. Fisher said
a large part of the State Farm property is outside of the area that could have a natural
gravity flow for sewage. Mr. Hill said the whole area can be served by sewer and the sewer
line is actually already in place. Mr. Fisher also noted that the medium density residential
shown on this map for a designation of 5 - 10 dwelling units per acre is on both sides of
the gravity line and that density would require public sewer. Mr. Fisher also noted that
he had looked at the areas designated for commercial at the 1-64 interchange and any develpp-
merit of that area would be difficult. Mr. Roudabush said the zoning in the southwest
quadrant cmuld be used oriented toward the Pantops Farm area, but the one on the northwest
quadrant would be difficult to obtain access.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if the Board choose not to create any additional commercial zoning
on this map what the staff would recommend asa density for those areas. Mr. Tucker said
because of the way the way is presently developing in commercial and commercial office uses,
he did not think these properties would be conducive to low density~residential. Also, in
the commercial area shown at the Rivanna River, the property in this section is effected by
recommendations in Alternative 4 of the CATS study, which recommends a new location for
Free Bridge.
October_ 11,19~9 (A~ourned from October 10, ~1~97_~9)
I
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KEY
Extent of Gravity Sewer
(Property west of this line)
Undeveloped Commercial
Undeveloped Comm. Office
Medium Den. Res.(5-10du/ac)
Urban .Area
Neighborhood Three
Scale
1"- 2000'
Mr. Dottier noted that the industrial site between ~-64 and the River is not shown on
this map and asked the reason why. Mr. Tucker said the Planning Commission had recommended
that land south of I-6~ be designated as a combination of commercial office and low density
residential. Ne was not sure how conducive this area would be to low density residential
since the area is adjacent to the interstate. There is a railroad in the area and an
industrial operation might be able to afford the money to design a lift station for sewage.
Mr. Roudabush said an industrial operation could h~ve less potential sewage needs. Dr.
Iachetta said it might be a more intelligent way to use the land since an industrial
operation~ight not require the same volume of water, thus making it less expensive to
develop.
Mr. Fisher said the Board has been looking at areas within the Urban Area that can be
served by gravity sewer. This map was a shock to him because he did not know there was
this much land in Neighborhood No. 3 which falls outside of the gravity sewage situation.
If the Board decides not to recognize the line on this map as the boundary for the Urban
Area, then the limits that have been established in other parts of the Urban Area are also
subject to questions. Dr. Iachetta said he did not feel the line should .be extanded eastward
to a point where the land cannot be served by gravity sewage. MP. Roudabush said the
Board needs to be careful how they define pumping, because there is already a pumping
situation at Hollymead. Dr. Iachetta said he did not want to limit pump stations, but also
did not want to encourage them.
Mr. Fisher asked if there was any consensus for limiting the N~hg~lA~ea to the ridge
line as the limit for gravity flow of sewage. Mr. Lindstrom agreed that the ridgeline
should be the limit. Mr. Dorrier asked if that meant that the property on the other side
of the line would be downzoned. Mr. Fisher said it meant there would not be any high
density residential zoning in that area and the question of commercial and commercial office
would have to be reconsidered.
Mr. Henley said he did not know why the intersection at the Interstate needed to be with-
in the Urban Area to be zoned commercial. Dr. Iachetta said he had the same feeling about
the area south of the interstate. He did not feel it needs to be included in the Urban
Area to develop in a suitable manner. Mr. Dottier asked if no high density was planned,
if the only thing left was &ow density or open space. Mr. Fisher said there would be no
density higher than that which could be served by septic systems. Mr. Roudabush said
there are areas in the watershed where high density is shown. If the Board does not want
any land which is outside of the gravity flow situation designated for higher than a low
density, that decision will have to be made soon.
Mr. Hill said that the developer of the Pantops property is in the process of putting
a waterline along State Farm Boulevard. The sewer line is also going in even though it
will be two years before it can be used. There is already a pipe across Route 250 to the
Odyssey Night Club and a lift station has been planned. He said that utilities must be
planned far in advance of building and the developer has been working under a Pantops Master
Plan for a long time.
Mr. Roudabush said with the number of commercial and commercial office uses and the
industrial use in the Pantops area, there will be a lot of people working in that area and
be very few places for them to live. He wondered if there should not be some high density
residential included in this neighborhood. Mr. Fisher said it appears that most of the
high density proposed on this neighborhood map is to the west of the ridge line. It would
seem to be better planning if the high density were to the east of the ridgeline; the
urban area boundary stop at the ridge line; then, from that point east, designate the
land as low density residential. ~He was not sure if the areas at the interstate are
developable, however, he did think that the one south of Route 250 and north of 1-64 might
be develepable.
Mr. Lindstrom said the commercial zoning shown on this map is creating another Route 29 N
East and he. could see no need for that much commercial. If that zoning is converted to
high density or medium density, there is a sewage problem. He said the County does not
really need any highway commercial at all.
Mr. Henley agreed that the interstate is a good natural boundary, but did not think
that c~mmercial zoning needs to be shown all the way to the interstate. Dr. Iachetta
suggested that the industrial site below Route 1-64 be eliminated and that the commercial
intensit~ on the remainder of the neighborhood be reduced.
Mr. Fisher, at this time, suggested that 6~he Board continue these work sessions with
a di~cussien of the village plan on October 17 at 2:30 P.M. and on the remaining neighborhood
plans on October 24 at 2:30 P.M.
Net Decketed: Mr. Fisher noted that the Board had asked Mr. St. John for his legal
en several items and then asked Mr. St. ~ohn to speak.
Mr. St. yohn said M~. ~gnor had asked him to assess the legal implication of Mrs. Opal
David,s D~oDesal dated SePt~ember 4, 1979.
A Statement and a Proposal re the Plannin~ Commission Proposals
for Revision of the Albemarle County Zonin~ Ordinance
~t is claimed intthe~ Summary of~ the Planning Commission Proposals that the ex-
p.ansion of the numbe~r~ of districts or zones from 15 to 23 provides greater
Flexibility in land use decisions. The fact is that increasing the number of
districts (zones) limits flexibility by freezing property into detailed
classifications today which may no longer be appropriate when actual develop~
ment is undertaken.
Proposal
~nstead of expanding the existing 15 dis~ict~ ~[zSnes] to 23, reduce 'the numbe~
to the following basic six:
Agriculture - Forestry
Residential - Low Density
Residential - Medium Density
Residential - High Density
Commercial
Industrial
Recast the material in the draft ordinance dealing with permitted uses, dimensional
requirements, and special restrictions into regulations on the basis of which
decisions as to density or intensity of use, height of buildings, road frontage,
parking places, etc. are made by the Planning Commission, subject to review by
the Board of Supervisors, at the Site Plan level or, in the case of subdivisions
not being developed under single ownership, at the point when the number of new
lots or parcels exceeds ten.
On the Zoning Map, show--in a color indicating its inclusion in one of the six
basic districts--all land which is undeveloped or is subdivided into residential
lots or parcels which conform to the gross density permitted inthhat district
(low, medium, or high).
Show, in a color or cross-hatching indicating the density or other special
characteristics covered in the regulations, all developed land and any subdivisions
approved for lot or parcel simes different from those established for the district
in which they are located.
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As applications for development clear the site plan review or subdivisions are
approved at densities different from those established for the district in which
they are located, add them to the map, overlaid with the date on which they were
approved.
Dismussion
The fatal flaw in the proliferation of districts (zones) as proposed in the
Planning Commission d~aft is that it makes maximum potential density or intensity
of use the basis for establishing district boundaries.
The Code of Virginia provides, with respect to the zoning authority of a local
governing body, that it may "classify the territory under its Jurisdiction . . .
into districts of such number, shape and size as it may deem best suited to
carry out the purposes of this article, and in each district i~ may regulate,
~estrict, permit, prohibit, and determine" various matters such as permitted
uses, density or intensity of use, required open space, etc.
This language seems to make a distinction between the classification of land
into districts within which a broad range of functionally related activities
may take place (i.e., agriculture, business, residential) and the promulgation
of regulations which determine in specific detail the circumstances under which
those activities will be permitted or restricted. Districts relate to the
Comprehensive Plan; regulations focus on specific projects, ready to happen.
The districts (zones) in the ordinance should correspond generally with (and be
no more detailed than) those in the Comprehensive Plan. Like the land use
categories recommended in the plan, these districts (zones) should be taken as
an educated guess about the locations most suitable for future development in
Albemarle (the statements of intent material in the draft) and, like the plan,
they should be subject to review and possible change every five years--a
powerful argument for keeping the ~istrict or zoning structure as general and
simple as possible.
The regulations should encompass the multiplicity of standards and guidelines
which provide the basis for Planning Commission and Board decisions on individual
applications--dimensional requirements, special restrictions (as for mobile homes,
flood hazard areas, junk yards, sanitary landfills), and the necessity for
compliance with other ordinances such as the Soil Erosion and Runoff Control.
It is at this stage that density or intensity of use should be determined, within
a framework of known--not conjectured--variables.
Mr. St. John said Mrs. David's proposal would not satisfy the requir~nents of the
Virginia Code as it would be interrupted by the Virginia Judiciary. Her proposal calls for
an ordinance which is not very~percise but simply an educated guess as to density, setback
regulations, height, etc. in given districts, these being established only under standards
at the site plan and subdivision~stage. Boundaries of the districts themselves would not
be spelled out any more specifically in the zoning ordinance than they are in the ~ompre-
hensive ~lan. If this were done, it would be left to the Board of Zoning Appeals to define
these boundaries. In Greene County, the whole county was placed in an A-1 zone with
certain exceptions. This was done to allow the Planning Commission and the Board of
Supervisors, maximum flexibility~]~ the case of Matthews vs. Greene County, the Supreme
Court said maximum flexibility to the government equals maximum uncertainity to the
landowners and struck down those provisions and left Greene County with no zoning ordinance
during a hiatus period. Mr. Fisher said that was done while the Board of Supervisors was
working on a comprehensive plan and a zoning ordinance. Mr. St. John said if the County
could hat have such an arrangement on the interim basis, then necessarily it could not be
done on a p~rmanent basis. In the case of Hylton Enterprises vs. Prince William County,
it is stated, "site plan approval and subdivision approval are ministerial acts". If the
application complies with the ordinance, it has an absolute right to approval and approval
is not a discretionary act. Administrative acts are divided into~"discretionary'', where
you have to use some judgement, and pure "ministerial", where you see a set of facts to
exist and you have no choice in approving~ The approval of site plans and subdivisions are
ministerially administrative acts in that case. If Mrs. David's suggestion was followed,
the Board would be delegating to the Planning Commission what amounts to legislative
judgement. Even if the Board retained the power to appeal and had final approval or disapprov
the Board would be delegating legislative decisions to the Planning CommisS&on in an area
where that function has been said to be ministerially administrative by the Supreme Court.
Mr. St. John said for these reasons, he does not think the County can do what Mrs. David
has suggested.
Mr. Lindstrom said that would a~so apply to using this approach in dealing with the
watershed. Mr. St. John said he did not think that this approach could be used in the
watershed any more than any other area in the County. Dr. Iachetta asked Mr. St. John if
he were saying that a landowner's rights under the new zoning ordinance will be locked in
concrete, the same as under the present zoning ordinance. Mr. St. John said he did not like
the choice of words but that Dr. Iachetta was basically accurate.
Mr. Fisher said that in the present A-1 zone there are a certain body of uses by right.
There is also the special permit procedure whereby an applicant can apply for a higher
density. If the base residential area had certain rights, and higher densities could be _
applied for through the special permit procedure, how would that ~e different from what Mrs.
David had proposed? Mr. St. John said that is the reason he did not think ~± would be
"locked in concrete", because through the special permit procedure other densities could
be granted or denied. Dr. Iachetta said what Mr. St. John had just outlined is what he
maant by "locked in concrete". Dr. Iachetta said what Mrs. David has set forth, is referred
to in some of the northern states as impact zoning, where there is nothing by right and all
densities are negotiated. Mr. St. John said that was correct. When Mrs. David proposed
this two years ago, it was accompanied by an analysis of impact zoning. The County Attorney's
Office reviewed several analyses of impact zoning at that time. Mr. St. John said Mrs.
David differentiates between ordinance on one ha~d, and regulations to be followed in
approving or disapproving an application. She states that the regulations are not of the
statu~e of an ordinance, but are guidelines to be followed when site plans or special use
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office disagrees with her statement and feels that these regulations must be incorporated
into an ordinance. Mr. Fisher said he understands~that the County Attorney does not feel
that State law permits this concept to be implemented. Mr. St. John said that is true and
he is confident that any ordinance which used this approach would be struck down by the
~udiciary.
Mr. St. John said there was also a question posed at yesterday's meeting during
discussion of State Farm Boulevard and a request for industrial access funds. As he
understood the Board's request, the ~lanning Commissinn and the Planning Staff were to
develop a budget which would keep State Farm Boulevard within a Category 5 road in the
future. Mr. St. John said he did not believe the County has the legal tooSs to do this
and mentioned the following alternatives.
Use the Comprehensive Plan as a legal tool as described and set out in Virginia Code
Section 15.1-456. This section states that once a comprehensive plan has been adopted and
the road system shown for a certain area, no public facility shall be constructed until
such time as the Planning Commission shall fi. nd that the location and the use of that road
are in agreement with the Comprehensive Plan. Using the Comprehensive Plan as a tool,
also the zoning ordinance, subdivision ordinance, and site plan ordinance, which are
geared toward the enforcement and implementation of the Comprehensive Plan, the Board could
do any of the following five things.
1) Require that State Farm Boulevard be designed and built to take care of the 30,000
vehicle trips per day when the site plan is approved. Mr. Roudabush noted that the site
plan had already been.approved. Mr. St. John said this could have been done when the site
plan was before the Planning Commission.
2) Disagrea with Mr. Roosevelt's assessment of requirements and say that no matter
what the zoning is, the road will never be called on to handle 30,000 vehicle trips per day
and that the site plan will be approved with a road built to a lesser specification. Mr.
St. John said if the County disregards the recommendations of the Highway Department, he
does not feel the Highway Department has the power to refuse to take the road into the
system once the commercial entrance has been designed and built, and the road built to the
state specifications originally required.
3) Rather than building the road to handle 30,000 vehicle trips per day at this time,
make future developers, under the site plan and subdivision ordinance, improve the road
if it is found to be inadequate to handle traffic.
4) Agreement with Mr. Roosevelt's assessment and follow his recommendation.
5) Take the alternative which Mr. Roosevelt suggested of making Virginia Land Company
follow a binding plan whihh would indicate less than 30,000 vehicle trips per day for the
entire area. In that case, the developer would be budgeting the vehicle trips per day to
the individual parcels. Dr. Iaehetta said that was the thrust of his question yesterday.
Mr. Roudabush said he felt there was little possibility that Mr. Roosevelt will stick
with his recommendations since there are examples where the Highway Department has-approved
the construction and taken over roads that were designed to be upgraded in stages as
additional development takes place. Mr. St. John said the one problem with that aspect
is the bonding. The road is presently designed as a Category 5. If the road is built to
serve only that development which has been approved at the present time and the road is
taken into the state system, there could be an agreement on the part of the developer,
which would be recorded and binding on the purchasers of adjacent properties, that at the
time the vehicle trips exceed a certain number per day, the purchasers would have an
obligation to bring the road up to the next highest category. This agreement could be
recorded and made a lien on the property, but Mr. St. John said he could see no way to bond
such provisions. (Mr. Dorrier lef~ the meeting at 5:23 P.M.)
Mm. St. John said he would recommend that the Board let the Highway Department handle
this matter and hope that the developer comes forward with a plan which shows ~vehicle trips
that will not exceed the standards of this road.
Mr. Agnor said that the replacement for Jim Butler as extension agent lives three miles
out of the County in Louisa County and asked if the Board felt the County Agent should live
in Albemarle County. It was the consensus that the agent did not have to live in Albemarle
County.
Agenda Item No. 3. At 5:26 P.M., motion was offered by Dr. Iachetta, seconded by Mr.
Lindstrom, to adjourn this meeting until October 16, 1979, at 5:30 P.M. at the Sheraton
Inn for a meeting with the School Board. The motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Messrs. Fisher, Henle~ Iachetta, Lindstrom and Roudabush.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Dottier.