HomeMy WebLinkAboutSDP201600014 Review Comments Letter of Revision 1 2017-03-20Christopher Perez
From: Rebecca Ragsdale
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 11:43 AM
To: Christopher Perez; Justin Shimp, P.E.
Subject: FW: Wildrock fka Heartrock day camp setback question (SP201400015)
See below.
From: Ron Higgins
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 5:30 PM
To: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Wildrock fka Heartrock day camp setback question (SP201400015)
Rebecca: I talked with Francis after receiving Justin's second e-mail from you. Francis and Stewart talked also. We
agree that the structure proposed can be treated as an accessory structure under the circumstances.
COrl".
Christopher Perez
From:
Justin Shimp, P.E. <justin@chimp-engineering.com>
Sent:
Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:08 PM
To:
Christopher Perez
Cc:
Frank Pohl; Rebecca Ragsdale
Subject:
Re: Quick Stream Buffer Question
I've discussed the details with Rebecca and she was going to look into whether or not this use was truly primary
or not. There is also the possibility that it could be considered a deck which is permitted to encroach by up to 4'
(giving us a 21' setback).
Rebecca, I know this is a super quick turnaround request but we do have a bunch of volunteers that would like
to come out saturday to get started on these projects. Do you think you could catch up with Ron this afternoon?
I really do feel that a treehouse is much closer aligned with a trail than a primary structure as the purpose of this
facility is really just to give kids in wheelchairs the opportunity to see the creek since they can't get down there
otherwise. Its sort of an elevated trail that happens to be centered around a tree.
Justin Shimp, P.E.
434-953-6116
On Mar 16, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Christopher Perez <cperez(&,albemarle.org> wrote:
Justin,
Ok, so that takes care if the stream buffer problem. What about the primary structure setback
requirements?
From: Justin Shimp, P.E. [mailto:justin@shimp-engineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 12:23 PM
To: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org>
Subject: Fwd: Quick Stream Buffer Question
FYI:
Justin Shimp, P.E.
434-953-6116
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Quick Stream Buffer Question
Date: January 30, 2017 at 10:21:44 AM EST
To: "Justin Shimp, P.E."<iustin(a)-shimp-engineerinq.com>
Justin, you are correct in that this falls under the trails exemption. However, the
exemption does not allow for the cutting down of trees within the buffer.
A building permit will be needed for the structure.
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
County of Albemarle
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 7914
From: Justin Shimp, P.E. [mailto:lustin@shimp-engineering.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:48 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Quick Stream Buffer Question
No, just buffer.
Justin Shimp, P.E.
434-953-6116
On Jan 30, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Frank Pohl <fpohlkalbemarle.or>
wrote:
Is the 100 -ft floodplain in this area?
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
County of Albemarle
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 7914
From: Justin Shimp, P.E. [mailto:lustin@shimp-engineering.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:44 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: Quick Stream Buffer Question
Hello Frank,
A quick, but perhaps unusual question for you:
I'm working with the Wildrock day camp up on Blackwells
Hollow Road on getting the camp up and running. We have an
approved SP/SDP/WPO/etc and are under construction and a
question has come up on what are allowable encroachment into the
stream buffer may be. We have some volunteers who have offered
to construct a wheel chair accessible tree house so that kids with
mobility issues can see the stream which runs across the front of
the property. The issue we have is that the only tree that we can get
to off the accessible path is in the stream buffer and also practically
we need to be in the buffer to get a view of the stream.
Looking at the WPO ordinance:
Sec. 17-603 Types of structures, improvements and activities
authorized in a stream buffer. If otherwise authorized by the
applicable regulations of the Zoning Ordinance, the following
types of structures, control measures and activities shall be
allowed in a stream buffer, provided that the requirements of this
section are satisfied.•
C. Water -dependent facilities and miscellaneous uses. Water -
dependent facilities; water wells; passive recreation access, such
as pedestrian trails and bicycle paths; historic preservation;
archaeological activities; provided that all applicable Federal,
State and local permits are obtained.
I've attached a sketch of the tree house so you can get the idea. It
will basically ramp up and be built around the tree. Seems to me
like this would qualify as a passive rec/trail type of use but since
its a structure of sorts I thought we should get some clarification.
Its pretty much the same thing as a wooden bridge that might cross
over a stream it just stops short and provides a viewing platform.
I've also attached a sketch of the proposed location.
We have a crew of volunteers eagerly waiting to do this, any
clarification you could provide would be most appreciated.
Thanks!
Justin Shimp, P.E.
434-953-6116