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A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle County,
virginia, was held on October 16, 1996, at 7:00 p.m., Room 241, County Office
Building, McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
PRESENT: Mr. David P. Bowerman, Ms. Charlotte Y. Humphris, Mr.
Charles S. Martin, Mr. Walter F. Perkins and Ms. Sally H. Thomas.
ABSENT: Mr. Forrest R. Marshall, Jr.
OFFICERS PRESENT:
Attorney, Larry W. Davis.
Agenda Item No. 1.
Chairman, Ms. Humphris.
County Executive, Robert W. Tucker, Jr. and County
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m., by the
Agenda Item No. 2. Pledge of Allegiance.
Agenda Item No. 3. Moment of Silence.
Agenda Item No. 4. Other Matters not Listed on the Agenda from the
Public. There were none.
Agenda Item No. 5. Consent Agenda. There were no items on the consent
agenda.
Agenda Item No. 6. Public Hearing on an ordinance to amend and reordain
Chapter 4, Animals and Fowl, Article II, Dogs, of the Code of Albemarle. This
amendment will add a section 4-14, called "Barking Dogs" This section would
make it unlawful and a nuisance for the owner or custodian of a dog to harbor
or keep any dog within the County which by loud, frequent or habitual barking
or howling disturbs the peace and quiet, or repose of any person with normal
sensitivities, provided, however, this section would not apply to any dog
located on property zoned Rural Areas or to any dog in a commercial kennel.
(Advertised in the Daily Progress on September 30 and October 7, 1996.)
Mr. Davis said the ordinance before the Board tonight would create what
is known as a "Barking Dog" Ordinance. In the urban part of the County {all
land not defined as Rural Areas), it would be unlawful for the owner or
custodian of a dog to allow any dog to create a nuisance by loud, frequent or
habitual barking or howling. If such a situation occurred, the ordinance
would allow a complainant to swear out a criminal warrant and prosecute the
case criminally in the General District Court. A violation of this section
would constitute a Class 3 misdemeanor which could be punishable by a fine of
up to $500.00.. If there were more than three convictions for any dog within a
twelve month period of time, the court could order that the dog be moved from
the area and/or destroyed. This matter comes to the Board after much discus-
sion this year and investigation by staff of different types of ordinances.
It is for the Board's consideration as to whether this ordinance is necessary
in light of other civil remedies which may be available to people who have
such situations.
With no questions from the Board members for Mr. Davis, Ms. Humphris
opened the public hearing.
Mr. Thomas Goodrich said he lives in a subdivision that is zoned rural.
Other subdivisions around him have quarter acre or half acre zoning. He has
a neighbor two houses away who has three barking dogs, and he cannot identify
which dog is barking, so that part of the ordinance would be useless to him.
His taxes are no less than anyone else's in the County and his question is why
the rural areas are excluded. He cannot walk down his street without these
dogs barking. It is a rural area and he would like for it to sound rural and
not like a city urban area.
Ms. Allison Gardner said she is opposed to the ordinance. She thinks
the ordinance will single out pet owners and dogs as noise polluters. She
would rather just keep the noise ordinance which includes dogs rather than
adding another ineffective ordinance. It will only pick on pet owners who
can't afford lawyers to defend themselves. She does not think this ordinance
is fair because if one person in the neighborhood does not like your dog, this
person can complain about the dog three times in one year, and your dog can be
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euthanasied. She thinks the ordinance discriminates. It is an elitist
ordinance.
Mr. Charles Gibson said he lives in Arbor Hills. He feels that all
County residents need an ordinance on barking dogs. He has neighbors on each
side of his property who are responsible and control their dogs. There are
others in the area that raise dogs for hunting. Those dogs bark, yelp and
howl all day and night. He has talked with the Chairman of the Board and his
representative on the Board (who said he has more complaints about peacocks
than dogs). Mr. Gibson said he had visitors to his house and the bedrooms are
on the opposite side of the house from where the dogs barked and these people
were awakened. During their evening meal they have to close the windows and
doors, but can still hear the dogs. In their family room while watching T.V.,
they have to close the doors and windows. These dogs are deer hounds. He
believes any ordinance put into effect should protect him as well as people in
the urban area. He said they bought in the area 19 years ago because it was
rural, but the acreage is just a little over one acre per house, so the houses
are close together. There have spoken to the owners who denied that it was
their dogs doing the barking. He has called the police who investigated and
said it was those dogs, but there is no ordinance on the books to protect him.
He asked that the Board consider this.
Mr. Bill Benner said he lives on Carrsbrook Drive. He had two new
neighbors move in simultaneously behind his property. One had three dogs, and
the other had two dogs. The family with two dogs let the dogs out at 7:30
a.m. The dogs were outside all day and barked continuously. The three dogs
were left out day and night. He did not want to say anything, wanting to get
along with the neighbors. Finally he called the police who sympathized with
him, but said that legally there was nothing they could do. He talked with
someone who suggested that he talk to the neighbors. He called Animal Control
and they went and talked to one of the families. It only helped for a couple
of days. One of the neighbors went so far as to suggest that Mr. Benner move
out into the County and get more land.
Mr. Benner said dogs barking are annoying and one or two dogs can incite
all the dogs in the neighborhood. This situation went on for eight to ten
years, and eventually everyone in the neighborhood said something, but it
never did any good. The only thing that has helped them is that the dogs have
gotten old. What happens when these dogs die, and are replaced with new dogs?
He thinks an ordinance is needed. It can't be left up to arguing with the
neighbors because that is when problems start.
Mr. Leon Gorman asked if a person swearing out a complaint has the
burden of proof in the courtroom. Also, can someone just swear out a com-
plaint without having to go to the court? Mr. Davis said the person with the
complaint can go before a magistrate and swear under oath that an offense has
occurred. The magistrate will then have a subpoena issued and that person
will be required to testify. The burden is to prove beyond a reasonable doubt
that the person who owns the dog has allowed the barking to occur. That
burden is on the Commonwealth, and the complaining witness would be the chief
witness and bears that burden.
Mr. Gorman said he did not see that in the ordinance. It is his opinion
that for someone to protect their dog, they would have to hire a lawyer to go
into the courtroom. The person swearing out the complaint does not have to
hire a lawyer. In his neighborhood, about 30 percent of the people will find
something to complain about. His dogs are well-behaved. They stay on a
leash, but when someone walks by or comes up to the house, they will bark. He
would be required to hire a lawyer and go to court because someone else does
not like anything that goes on in the neighborhood. The way the ordinance is
written, it is one sided. He has never heard of this type of ordinance
before. If there is to be such a law it should be rewritten and show where
the burden of proof is.
Mr. Michael Goldman said he lives in the urban ring of the County. He
is concerned about the Board extracting, redefining and separating different
types of noise pollution. By pinpointing dogs barking, the Board may cause
extreme prejudice against dogs, their owners, and turn this ordinance into an
anti-dog measure. Land moving equipment is allowed to run eight to twelve
hours at a time. Neighbors and construction workers can operate chain saws at
82 decibels for two to four hours at a time. The County's own maintenance
crew operates five big lawn mowing pieces at 7:00 a.m. at Cale Elementary.
Why would the Supervisors adopt an anti-dog barking ordinance, but yet be
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enthusiastic about a residential development adjacent to 1-647 Why is it that
the Supervisors do not think dog owners have the same sensitivities as a
complainant?
Mr. Goldman said he is concerned that under the modified noise ordinance
initially discussed in late July and early August there were recommendations
that anyone might be able to purchase noise limit waivers above those set by
the Board. In his development, if the board of directors wishes to have a
block party and buys one of these waivers and holds the party with music and
noise at the end of his cul-de-sac, and his dogs bark during this time, it is
possible that one or all of the neighbors could go to the magistrate and
complain that the dogs are in violation of the ordinance. He is concerned
that the Board may be removing the responsibility of one neighbor to another,
building friction between neighbors and destroying neighborhoods. He is
concerned about the expense of losing a day from work, and hiring an attorney
to refute the magistrate's credentials in determining whether a complainant
has reasonable sensitivities after just a single interview. He is concerned
that his dog may be banished from Albemarle County, or worse, euthanized.
Mr. Goldman said he took some decibel readings at his home the last few
months. On Route 742 at 9:30 p.m., the readings were 58 to 62. Those were
just the crickets. At 10:00 p.m., it was 62 to 64 decibels from the crickets.
His dogs were at 72 decibels. Recently, the rain was at 62 to 64 decibels.
The workmen hammering and sawing in the lot adjacent to his were at 74
decibels. Dog barking is basically a noise condition so should be under a
noise ordinance, not a specific anti-barking dog ordinance.
Mr. Keith Ford said "we don't need no more ordinances." He is a coon
hunter, hunting raccoons for sport. He said coon hunting is not like it used
to be when one carried a kerosene lantern and bought a dog for $25.00. To buy
a coon hound, it costs from $25.00 to $35.00 and for a good stud dog, the cost
could be $5000.00. You need to know where this dog is at all times, so you
invest in collars that might cost $1800.00 each. If he is hunting near
Richmond or up in Ohio where the land is flat (he can't watch the branches
because he is strictly a hillbilly), if he gets lost, he can push Channel 4
and find where his truck is parked. Coon hunting is a big sport. He lives in
a rural area in Boonesville. The worst punishment a coon hunter can have is
to have his coon dog run a deer, fox, bear, or anything other than a coon,
because that is what he trains that dog to do. The second worst punishment a
coon hunter can have is his coon dog either barking in the kennel or on the
chain. The dog will be kept on a chain occasionally so he will learn to lead,
especially when it is a young dog. Mr. Ford said what bothers him is to have
that dog barking on the chain. It will drive a coon hunter crazy. He does
not want that dog to bark in the kennel or on the chain because it messes up
his vocal cords and he can't be heard in the mountains. He wouldn't give ten
cents for a silent dog. He just gave one away one of the highest breeds in
the country, Timber Chopper, for that reason.
Mr. Ford said since Albemarle County has been allowed to grow the way it
is growing now, he can go out to hunt (he has permission to hunt on a lot of
land), and if a dog gets in a subdivision and starts barking while treeing a
coon, an owner can come in and get a warrant for him and then he (Mr. Ford)
has to hire an attorney to protect his dog. That man will have the right to
do that if this ordinance is adopted tonight. Mr. Ford said he was hunting
near Richmond last year and his dog struck a coon and trailed it down the
branch right into a subdivision, and treed it in someone's back yard. Then
the man came out on his deck, and Mr. Ford asked permission to catch his
hounds and leave. The man did not say anything, but went into his house and
got a bag of fireworks, and lit the bottom of the bag and pitched it over on
them. He doesn't want anyone getting a warrant for him because his dogs
slipped over, and he doesn't think he should have to put up with that. He
handed in petitions containing 57 signatures of people asking that the Board
not enact a dog ordinance in the rural areas of Albemarle County (on file in
the Clerk's Office).
Mr. Donald Roberts said he was present to speak against the ordinance.
One of the things the Board has stood for is keeping the County as rural as
possible. All know the County is going to grow. Since this country was born,
there have been men with dogs and families with dogs. Dogs are for protec-
tion. Dogs are wonderful associates to be around, and to give great peace of
mind. With the ordinance being considered tonight, the Board is trying to put
the County in the business of solving problems between neighbors. That is not
what County government is for. The County is to take care of the well-being
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of the community. Dog owners are taxpayers, they have to pay a special fee to
get a license, pay to have the dog vaccinated, pay many things to maintain
these animals. He understands there are problems with dogs barking, but he
thinks there are civil penalties that can take care of this. The County does
not need to make dogs criminals.
Ms. Sherry Buttrick said she lives in a rural part of the County and
they work hard to keep it that way. If an ordinance like this were to be
applied to the rural areas it would suburbanize their area to some extent.
They keep some dogs, and their neighbors keep some hounds, and they are not
bothered by them. She is glad to see the rural areas are not included in the
ordinance at this time, and she hopes they will not be included.
Ms. Pam Dent said she is the president of the Charlottesville/Albemarle
Kennel Club. The Club has members living in both rural areas and the more
densely populated areas of the City and the County. These people care deeply
about their dogs and are responsible dog owners. They have invested a lot of
time in training, public education, and care of these dogs. They see this
ordinance as an anti-dog ordinance, potentially discriminating against people
who care about dogs. A lot of people moved to Albemarle because of its rural
nature, and she thinks this ordinance would change that nature. She also
believes it is a nuisance ordinance, and it bothers her to see the freedom to
have dogs put under more and more control.
Ms. Ann Via said she lives in Free Union. She is against this dog
ordinance. Dogs can be kept from barking and bothering their neighbors if the
owner tries to.
Ms. Janice Moeller said she lives in Canterbury Hills Subdivision. She
is encouraged by the proposed ordinance. She sees a lot of concerns on both
sides. She suggested that the ordinance only apply to subdivisions within a
five to ten mile radius of the City. She lives in a nice neighborhood and
when she moved in eight years ago she was surrounded by four dogs, and now
there are nine. Many times they have had to move to another part of the
house, turn up the stereo very loud, or wear ear plugs just to be able to read
or study. She has had her daughter crying at 11:00 p.m. because she can't
sleep and has to get up early to go to school. They have tried over the years
to approach the neighbors in a tactful way. They have either hung up the
phone or gotten very ugly, which bothers her. She thinks the ordinance is a
good idea and she hopes it happens.
Ms. Wendy Caldwell said she is against the ordinance. She is a pet
owner and a dog trainer and helps others train and be responsible for their
pets. She feels it is an individual matter and should not be taken under
legislation, but approached individually. Those who are responsible seek to
show others that their dogs are good citizens. There is a subdivision which
is rapidly encroaching on her property, and her dogs may bark if incited by
construction, etc. It would be a natural thing, but as responsible pet owners
this should be taken under advisement and should be an individual matter.
Mr. Joseph Raines said he lives on Old Lynchburg Road and is opposed to
the ordinance as written. He feels the Board will be opening "Pandora's Box"
to a lot of nuisance calls. He feels there may be a problem with the urban-
ization of Albemarle County, but he does not think this is the way to address
it. Obviously there are people who have problems with neighbors and barking
dogs and they need some recourse, but he does not think this is the way to go
about it. He handed in petitions containing over 100 signatures of persons
from all over the County voicing an objection to this ordinance (on file in
the Clerk's Office). He is opposed because he feels the ordinance is too
broad and too vague.
Ms. Annette Watkins said she has lived in Albemarle County all of her
life. She has had dogs for over 25 years. She understands that it is a
benefit to society to have laws that protect the citizens. It is important
for the citizens to have recourse, especially the ones who are wronged. She
is concerned that a certain part of the pet population has been segmented.
She sympathizes with those who suffer and deal with the nuisance barking, but
feels the ordinance is unnecessary. The nuisance noise ordinance which is
already in place in the County has been used to argue and settle cases. She
thinks it is unnecessary to segment out just dog owners. She is also dis-
turbed by the severe penalty. Any barking will be a nuisance to anyone who
does not want to hear it. There are many reasons why dogs bark: stimulation,
a squirrel, a siren, territorial reasons, and neglect which is the number one
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issue for a true nuisance barking dog. A neglected animal will bark because
of boredom, lack of attention, lack of exercise, hunger, or pain. Those
animals which are true nuisance barkers should be turned over to animal
control or the Humane Society. They will not stop barking because an ordi-
nance is imposed. Imposing responsible dog ownership is the best way to deal
with the problem. She feels this ordinance infringes on her right to own
animals, live with them, and to feel safe in her home. The densely populated
areas would be better served by neighborhood associations to arbitrate these
problems. She thinks this is a redundant ordinance because of the current
noise ordinance and she thinks the ordinance will affect everybody who owns a
dog which can bark.
Ms. Diane Hartling from Berkeley Subdivision said there are a lot of
dogs in the neighborhood. When she walks in her back yard, dogs bark at her
from all sides. It is hard to sleep. It is hard to take a nap in the
afternoon. She is not against dogs as pets, but dogs are the only pets that
bark. She would like some recourse to get some peace and quiet.
Mr. Fred Hartling from Berkeley Subdivision said he had a dog at one
time which ran off of his property and bit a man. He had to have the dog
pounded for two weeks. Now that he is not a dog owner he finds that some
people in the neighborhood who have dogs care nothing about the people who
live on either side of them. He has contacted several people and they really
don't care. People like this make it hard on other dog owners. If the
ordinance were enacted for subdivision areas and not the rural areas, he
thinks it would be more helpful. He understands the homeowners who don't have
dogs but have to be annoyed by this type of barking.
Mr. James Haden said he is not a dog owner, but is opposed to this
ordinance. One thing being overlooked is that people own dogs for safety
reasons. The fact that the dog barks is where they get their sense of safety
and security. He has worked the night shift for a while, his wife is opposed
to guns so he would never have a gun in the house. If his wife were at home
with a dog which could bark and protect her to some degree that would make him
feel better about the situation. He thinks this ordinance will just compli-
cate people's lives more than is necessary.
Mr. Bill Watson said he has a dog which barks. He has been robbed in
the last 12 months and when the police came, they said the best defense to a
robbery is a barking dog. He likes this second draft of the ordinance better
than what was presented originally, but he offered two suggestions. There is
a concern about dogs in certain neighborhoods, and it is difficult to have a
barking dog if one cannot sleep at night. He asked that the Board consider a
time element for the ordinance, and that there be more than one complainant.
In the more urbanized area of the County, if one person is being bothered,
there must be more people being bothered. He suggested that having two or
more complainants be necessary. If the ordinance is passed as drafted and he
had a complaint filed against him, he would have only one option, and that is
to "debark" his dog. He does not want to do that, especially since he has
been robbed.
Ms. Jane Russell said she has been working for eight years with Oak
Forest Circle and has talked to many people at the Senior Center and other
groups. What has happened is that in every community there is a "bully".
Most people are now going to work and leaving their dogs outside to bark.
When they are approached, they say they have a right to leave the dog outside
barking while they go to work. Ms. Russell said she works at home, and there
are other people in the neighborhood who have jobs which require them to sleep
during the day. Out of 72 people on Oak Forest Circle, most are wonderful
neighbors, but once in a while there is someone who has a "chip on his
shoulder" about his dog. She has had a serious problem with one or two
neighbors and cannot sit in her front yard because the barking is so loud.
She thinks her rights need to be considered too. She is a voter.
Ms. Marianne Sullivan said she lives in the County, is a dog owner, and
she also trains dogs voluntarily. She has sympathy for the people who are
concerned about barking dogs. She does not believe an ordinance is the way to
resolve the problem of irresponsible dog owners. It sounds like most of these
people are in subdivisions or crowded neighborhoods. She wondered if these
people could not form neighborhood associations or have some means of arbitra-
tion to resolve all types of problems. She wondered if an area was presently
zoned rural and that zoning was changed, would the property be grandfathered
or are you then under this ordinance? She said they moved to the County and
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bought agricultural land for very specific reasons. She hopes that will be
preserved and she does not have to feel threatened every time a zoning change
comes along.
Ms. Cheryl Haden said she is opposed to the ordinance. She thinks the
noise ordinance should suffice.
With no one else from the public rising to speak, the public hearing was
closed at 7:57 p.m.
Mr. Martin asked what constitutes probable cause. Mr. Davis said he
thinks the magistrate would judge your credibility and listen to the situa-
tion. If he believes a reasonable person would be disturbed by what has been
described, he would likely issue a warrant that there is probable cause (which
is an ambiguous standard).
Mr. Martin asked if there is an opportunity for the person who is being
complained against to answer at the magistrate's level, or does he only get a
chance to give his version of the story at adjudication. Mr. Davis said the
magistrate only hears the complainant. Mr. Martin asked if he went to the
magistrate and seemed like a reasonable person, the person who is complained
against would have no redress until adjudication. Mr. Davis said that is
correct.
Ms. Humphris said based on the story Mr. Martin just told, the magis-
trate would not have gotten probable cause by him saying it just happened
because of the habitual clause written into the law.
Mr. Martin said someone suggested earlier that more than one complainant
be required. He asked if that is legal. Mr. Davis said some jurisdictions
have devised ordinances where if neighborhoods have people in close proximity
to one another, more than one complaint could be required before a summons can
be taken out. If the neighbors are far apart, the magistrate would require
only one complaint. The problem is that this type of ordinance requires a lot
of recordkeeping and the direct involvement of the police or the animal warden
to keep tract of the complaints. The model ordinances Mr. Davis looked at
require the animal warden to take an active part in the prosecution because he
knows there have been two complaints within a certain period of time. He is
then required to subpoena both of the complainants to come in and testify. It
is a more complicated process than what is written in the proposed ordinance.
Mr. Martin asked if there is anyway to get the animal warden out of it
by writing in the ordinance that the two complainants have to make their
complaint at the same time. Mr. Davis said he has not seen any ordinance
written that way, but he does not know of any reason it could not be done.
Mr. Martin asked if it was written in this manner if it would be legal. Mr.
Davis said he sees no reason why it would not be legal.
Mr. Bowerman asked what will be different about getting a summons issued
under the proposed ordinance, as opposed to what is done at the present time.
Mr. Davis said in a criminal procedure under the proposed ordinance, a person
would swear out a summons before a magistrate and the complainant would have
to come to court and testify. If the judge believed their story, the judge
would have the option of finding that person guilty of a crime and imposing a
fine. The fine would be paid to the court. That is a crime against the
County.
The alternative is a civil procedure. In that procedure there are two
different remedies. One is for someone who feels they have been damaged by
the unreasonable barking to go to the General District Court and swear out a
civil warrant in debt for damages. If they can prove that the unreasonable
barking is a nuisance which has caused them to break their lease, or have
medical problems, or lose wages, or in some way to damage their economic life,
they could simply swear out a summons, appear in what is basically a small
claims court in Virginia, and if they prove their case by a preponderance of
evidence, the judge could find for the complainant and issue them an award of
damages.
Mr. Martin asked if the burden of proof is the same in civil court as in
criminal court. Also, is there a Commonwealth's Attorney paid for by the
State to represent the complainant in civil court. Mr. Davis said the burden
of proof in a criminal case has to be beyond a reasonable doubt which is a
high burden of proof. In a civil case, the burden is by a preponderance of
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evidence which means that if it is more likely than not, you have proven your
case. In a criminal case, the Commonwealth's Attorney is typically in the
General District Court, and since it is a crime against the County and the
Commonwealth, he will assist in that prosecution if he feels it is warranted.
In a civil court, neither the Commonwealth's Attorney or the County Attorney
can play any part in that. It is purely a civil matter between private
citizens. They can choose to have a lawyer or not at their discretion.
Mr. Martin said it seems that getting it into court is just as easy
either way it is done. In civil court, it is the complainant against the
person who is being complained against. Either, or neither, can have an
attorney. It is a fair situation in that the defendant does not have to spend
money because the complainant has access to the Commonwealth's Attorney.
Also, in civil court, the complainant has a lower burden of proof than in
criminal court because it is only a preponderance of evidence as opposed to
reasonable doubt. Mr. Davis said that is correct. The second problem of the
civil remedy would be if someone was not claiming damages, but just wanted the
nuisance to be ordered stopped, That type of action cannot be filed in
General District Court. It can only be filed in Circuit Court where a judge
has the power to issue an injunction. That is a more complicated procedure
for a non-lawyer to get involved in. It would likely require most people to
obtain a lawyer to have that filed. In Circuit Court, what would need to be
proved by the complainant is that they were no longer being provided the
reasonable use of their property because of the barking. In that instance,
the judge would have the ability to order the barking dog to stop barking and
the dog owner to take whatever steps were necessary to assure that. If the
dog owner did not comply, he would then be in contempt of court and the court
could, in serious cases, imprison that person for failing to obey that order.
In that instance, the complainant gets nothing other than the fact that the
dog no longer barks. There have been cases litigated all the way to the
Supreme Court of Virginia involving barking dogs where it was found to be a
nuisance, and the courts have been upheld in that decision. What everyone
needs to understand is that whether it is a criminal remedy or a civil remedy
you have to go to court, and have to testify. Adoption of any ordinance will
not solve problems among neighbors.
Mr. Martin asked if a person went to General District Court and asked
for damages if the General District judge has the authority to do something
less than order a financial award once he sees the preponderance of evidence.
Mr. Davis said in a civil case, probably not because he does not have the
power to issue an injunction. A Circuit Court judge does have that authority.
Mr. Bowerman said that in seven years as a member of this Board he has
received only one complaint about a barking dog. When this issue came to the
Board several months ago, it was a specific issue that a citizen brought to
the Board. He presented a bleak case for the situation in which he was
involved. That citizen has since gone through the civil courts and been found
to be correct. Mr. Martin asked if that was heard in Circuit or General
District Court. Mr. Davis said he thinks it was heard in General District
Court and the person was awarded damages because of a broken lease. Ms.
Thomas asked if the dog stopped barking, or are all of the other people in
that neighborhood still being impacted by that dog. Mr. Davis said he
understands it has stopped. A person in the audience said the dog has been
removed from the neighborhood.
Mr. Bowerman said he does not see much of a difference in procedures
between having the ordinance, or not having this ordinance. It still relies
on the individual to make their case before a magistrate and a judge. Most of
his district is urban. This is not something he wants to put in place even in
the urban area because he feels there are already remedies to deal with the
problem. The government can't legislate common sense and good neighborliness,
and that is clearly what is being discussed. For that reason, even though the
ordinance is restricted to just the urban area, he will not support adoption
of the ordinance.
Mr. Martin said he will go along with Mr. Bowerman. He wanted to
explain himself because he has been written up in the press as not caring or
being concerned about this problem. There are three issues. The ease with
which one can get a warrant which leaves it open for "pay-back". The fact
that one can go in, act reasonable, give a reasonable story, and one only
needs to establish probable cause. At that point, you get to go to court with
the Commonwealth's Attorney, and the person you are complaining against is
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probably going to have to defend himself, or hire an attorney. That is one of
the things that bothers Mr. Martin. He thinks that issue could be overcome by
requiring more than one complainant. The thing is that there is more than one
means to do it. The thing that has not been discussed tonight is the fact
that the County does have a noise ordinance in place. He thinks barking dogs
would be covered by that ordinance. Mr. Davis said the existing Noise
Ordinance which applies in residential areas between 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m.
restricts noise at the receiving property line to 65 decibels. He has been
told that the bark from a dg cannot be measured because it is a broken noise.
There is not an effective remedy under the existing noise ordinance.
Mr. Martin said the thing that concerns him is that this ordinance
focuses on dogs. What about a family with a sick child that cries all the
time? What about a family just like his that seems to accumulate kids in the
yard playing football or basketball? That would make more noise than a
barking dog. These are issues between neighbors and that interferes with the
ability to pursue happiness in your neighborhood. If this ordinance is to be
adopted, why not adopt an ordinance which requires people to mow their yard
once a week? What about people who don't clean out their gutters, so there
are weeds growing out of the gutters? Those things can be irritating. That
interferes with his pursuit of happiness especially if he has to walk his
family by that. He thinks this ordinance is too much government and it is not
necessary. There are other ways to deal with the problem.
Ms. Thomas said this is an emotional issue. She thinks people did a
nice job of making clear presentations on how they feel without getting
disagreeable. She has gotten phone calls from a number of people who feel
there is nothing they can do. Yet, there seems to be some civil remedies.
These citizens have said that some lawyer told them there is nothing they can
do, or some policeman told them there is nothing they can do. When people
feel there is nothing they can do, people turn to the government. People
don't know how to access the remedies which are available. She said the
County is falling down in its responsibility by not telling people how to find
a solution. Mr. Tucker said staff wanted to see what would happen at this
hearing. Staff can outline what remedies are available, and get that informa-
tion out to the public.
Ms. Humphris said the Board has been dealing with two questions. Do
people really have a problem, and she thinks that some people do. The second
is whether this proposed ordinance is the proper remedy. She is hearing from
the people who do not have the problem that this ordinance is not the proper
remedy for a number of reasons. She thinks it is clear that there is a
problem, but there is a remedy. The Board should have the directions for
people to follow drawn up and have that made available to the public.
Ms. Thomas said she ran some hypotheticals past Mr. Davis at one point.
When the dog is disturbing your sleep, but you haven't lost your job, and you
haven't decided to move yet, and you don't have a headache sufficient to have a
doctor's bill, she does not think the civil remedy will be sufficient for
dealing with some of the issues that would be picked up by persons of reason-
able sensibilities. Ms. Humphris said she understood Mr. Davis to say that
even if you are not seeking damages, you can go to the Circuit Court for an
injunction. Mr. Davis said that is correct, but he does not want anyone to
think that is an easy remedy at that level. It is a more complicated proce-
dure where one would have to file a pleading that needs to be drawn up by a
lawyer and a hearing date set. It is a formal court of record so the burden
would be to present to the judge the court standard that the reasonable use
and enjoyment of your property has been denied because of the barking dog. It
is an available remedy, but in a severe case. It is a case where you have
lost the enjoyment of your property because of an unreasonable situation that
is on-going.
Ms. Humphris said the Board is not talking about the dog that barks as
you walk by, or barks when you go to the front door. Mr. Davis said those
cases would not be sufficient.
Mr. Bowerman said it is unfortunate that bullies exist. Life is not
fair and sometimes you have to go out of the way to redress something you feel
has been committed against us. He does not see any other way to deal with
this problem.
Mr. Martin said he would offer motion that the Board not adopt the
ordinance to amend and reordain Chapter 4, Animals and Fowl, by adding section
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4-14 entitled "barking dogs." The motion was seconded by Mr. Bowerman. Roll
was called, and the motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mr. Perkins, Ms. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman and Ms. Humphris.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Marshall.
Agenda Item No. 7. Approval of Minutes: January 3, 1996.
Mr. Martin had read January 3, 1996, pages 1 - 15 (Item #14) and found
them to be in order.
Motion was offered by Mr. Martin, seconded by Mr. Bowerman, to approve
the minutes which had been read. Roll was called, and the motion carried by
the following recorded vote:
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
Mr. Martin, Mr. Perkins; Ms. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman and Ms. Humphris.
None.
Mr. Marshall.
Agenda Item No. 8. Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the
BOARD.
Mr. Martin mentioned that a group of Ukrainians are coming on Monday,
October 21, and a group of Russians are coming on Tuesday, October 22. He
invited all Board members to the Wilson Dance Studios on Proffit Road at 3:00
p.m. He said it is one of the largest Russian groups to tour this area and
they will be doing so shortly and are coming to Albemarle for a preliminary
scouting of the place. There is a press conference on Tuesday.
Ms. Thomas said the Charlottesville-Albemarle Transportation Study
(CATS) has a draft which is being looked at by a citizens group and the
technical advisory group to see if the plan fits in with the County's Compre-
hensive Plan in all matters. The Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO)
will be looking at it also. It lays out the plans for transportation, not
just roads, but everything from "park and ride" sites to studies of future
roads. Ms. Humphris said it is a very interesting document. The citizens
group has put in a tremendous amount of work on it, so it is a valuable
document.
Agenda Item No. 9. Adjourn. With no further business to come before
the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 8:28 p.m.
Chairman