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Home My WebLink AboutSUB201600021 Review Comments Appeal to BOS 2016-07-181 John Anderson From:Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov> Sent:Monday, July 18, 2016 8:32 AM To:Megan Nedostup Cc:John Anderson Subject:FW: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Megan, VDOT has reviewed digital plans for the above-referenced submission and have no further comment. Adam J. Moore, P.E. | Assistant Resident Engineer/Area Land Use Engineer VDOT - Charlottesville Residency 701 VDOT Way | Charlottesville | VA main 434.422.9782 From: Jeremy Fox [mailto:JFox@roudabush.com] Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:43 AM To: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) Cc: Bill Ledbetter Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Adam, If you are good with the change below we are prepared to print final sets for submittal. Please email John and Megan at the county letting them know you are good with the revisions once you view it. 2 3 Thank you, Jeremy Fox Roudabush, Gale and Associates 914 Monticello Road Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Office: 434.977.0205 Fax: 434.296.5220 From: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) [mailto:Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 11:21 AM To: Jeremy Fox <JFox@roudabush.com> Cc: Bill Ledbetter <BLedbetter@roudabush.com>; Ammy George <AGeorge@roudabush.com>; Deel, Justin (VDOT) <Justin.Deel@vdot.virginia.gov> Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Jeremy, I would move the W1-1R and W13-1P farther south, in the vicinity of Lots 22-24. Otherwise, looks good. Adam J. Moore, P.E. | Assistant Resident Engineer/Area Land Use Engineer VDOT - Charlottesville Residency 701 VDOT Way | Charlottesville | VA main 434.422.9782 From: Jeremy Fox [mailto:JFox@roudabush.com] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:38 AM To: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) Cc: Bill Ledbetter; Ammy George; Deel, Justin (VDOT) Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Adam, Please see attached regarding the chevrons. Does this satisfy all of your concerns? Thank you, Jeremy Fox Roudabush, Gale and Associates 914 Monticello Road Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Office: 434.977.0205 Fax: 434.296.5220 From: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) [mailto:Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:12 PM To: Bill Ledbetter <BLedbetter@roudabush.com> Cc: Ammy George <AGeorge@roudabush.com>; Deel, Justin (VDOT) <Justin.Deel@vdot.virginia.gov>; Jeremy Fox <JFox@roudabush.com>; Dan Staples <DStaples@roudabush.com>; Dave Brockman <dave@oldtrailvillage.com>; Leslie Tate <LTate@roudabush.com> Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 4 Bill, Page 111 of the MUTCD shows an example applicable to this instance. You don’t need to add the arrow signs (shown as optional) but you would need the advisory speed plate and the chevrons. Adam J. Moore, P.E. | Assistant Resident Engineer/Area Land Use Engineer VDOT - Charlottesville Residency 701 VDOT Way | Charlottesville | VA main 434.422.9782 From: Bill Ledbetter [mailto:BLedbetter@roudabush.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:01 PM To: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) Cc: Ammy George; Deel, Justin (VDOT); Jeremy Fox; Dan Staples; Dave Brockman; Leslie Tate Subject: Re: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Adam, can you direct me to the publication or guide that will show the signs and warnings you want in place and the location? Thanks, Bill Ledbetter Roudabush, Gale and Associates On Jul 14, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov> wrote: Ammy/Bill, One other sign issue is that when using a 20mph design speed you need advisory speed signs and chevrons around that curve. Other than that this looks good. Adam J. Moore, P.E. | Assistant Resident Engineer/Area Land Use Engineer VDOT - Charlottesville Residency 701 VDOT Way | Charlottesville | VA main 434.422.9782 From: Ammy George [mailto:AGeorge@roudabush.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:35 AM To: Bill Ledbetter; Moore, Adam PE (VDOT); Deel, Justin (VDOT) Cc: Jeremy Fox; Dan Staples; Dave Brockman; Leslie Tate Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Good morning Adam, I have incorporated the agreed changes to the stop signs into the final plans. I have included the Demolition & Existing Conditions Plans to show which stop signs will be 5 removed. I have also included the Site Layout Plan to show the location of the stop signs (existing and proposed) at final build out. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me. Ammy George From: Bill Ledbetter Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:47 PM To: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Deel, Justin (VDOT) <Justin.Deel@vdot.virginia.gov> Cc: Ammy George <AGeorge@roudabush.com>; Jeremy Fox <JFox@roudabush.com>; Dan Staples <DStaples@roudabush.com>; Dave Brockman <dave@oldtrailvillage.com>; Leslie Tate <LTate@roudabush.com> Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Great. We will update current plans to reflect this. I will send you a PDF reflecting the changes tomorrow. I will start coordinating with our sign people to make the other changes. I think it wise we do a little PR/notification of the residents before making the existing sign changes. Thanks Bill Bill Ledbetter Roudabush, Gale and Associates 914 Monticello Road Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 434-977-0205 office 540-649-0190 cell 434-296-5220 fax From: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) [mailto:Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:48 PM To: Bill Ledbetter; Deel, Justin (VDOT) Cc: Ammy George Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Bill, This looks good. I agree, let’s keep the one highlighted in purple as an all way stop. Adam J. Moore, P.E. | Assistant Resident Engineer/Area Land Use Engineer VDOT - Charlottesville Residency 701 VDOT Way | Charlottesville | VA main 434.422.9782 6 From: Bill Ledbetter [mailto:BLedbetter@roudabush.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 2:01 PM To: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT); Deel, Justin (VDOT) Cc: Ammy George Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Adam Take a look at the attached PDF and see if I am depicting what you guys are saying in your email from yesterday. Signs in Blue are proposed stop signs for the current east side plans you are reviewing. Signs in Red are existing stop signs to be removed. Signs showing on the current plans under review will be noted as such. Signs in Green are existing stop signs to remain in place. I am not certain about the area highlighted in purple with the note, but think it should be a 4 way stop since a straight thru continuing east will go from public road to an alley. Let me know any changes I need to make. Once we are good with you guys, I will update the current review plans to reflect. Thanks in advance. BL Bill Ledbetter Roudabush, Gale and Associates 914 Monticello Road Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 434-977-0205 office 540-649-0190 cell 434-296-5220 fax From: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) [mailto:Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:04 PM To: Bill Ledbetter; Deel, Justin (VDOT) Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Bill, I just spoke with both Dennis and Joel. I think we may need to discuss this further tomorrow afternoon. Dennis acknowledged that two stops were added out there in the field and that it was understood that was the limit of it. Joel reiterated his point of view that all way stops (AWSC) are only to be used when warrants are satisfied. There are substantial studies that show stop signs are not effective in controlling speed. We will however review and consider alternate (nonphysical) means of traffic calming. Joel said that he has had discussions to this effect with others to include Mr. Brockman. He said that the strategy should be 7 that the roads intersecting with Old Trail Blvd should be the through streets and that the north-south roads should be stop controlled. I appreciate that you feel this is late in the review process for this particular section, but it appears that these types of discussions have been had long before this plan review process began. My expectation is that we can discuss location and direction of stop signs via email and pdfs but I feel it should be sorted out prior to plan approval. Adam J. Moore, P.E. | Assistant Resident Engineer/Area Land Use Engineer VDOT - Charlottesville Residency 701 VDOT Way | Charlottesville | VA main 434.422.9782 From: Bill Ledbetter [mailto:BLedbetter@roudabush.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 3:07 PM To: Deel, Justin (VDOT) Cc: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT) Subject: RE: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 Justin or Adam, Do one of you have a moment to give me a call? Thanks! BL Bill Ledbetter Roudabush, Gale and Associates 914 Monticello Road Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 434-977-0205 office 540-649-0190 cell 434-296-5220 fax From: Deel, Justin (VDOT) [mailto:Justin.Deel@vdot.virginia.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:22 PM To: 'John Anderson' Cc: Moore, Adam PE (VDOT); Ammy George; Bill Ledbetter Subject: SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30 7-12-16 John, Attached is our review for SUB201600021 Old Trail Blocks 10, 16-28 & 30. Justin Justin Deel, EIT Land Development Engineer Virginia Department of Transportation 8 434-422-9894 540-717-1408 (c)