HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP201700020 Correspondence 2017-12-05 (2)Crozet Community Advisory Committee
Crozet Library
Wednesday, November 15, 2017 from 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM
Dave Stoner: Welcome's everyone and calls the meeting to order.
A quorum is established.
Introductions made by members of the CCAC and citizens present at the meeting.
Citizens Present: Ray Grant, Frank Cerrone, Bob Rottiers, Charlie Bendig, Brenda
Plantz, Pat Groot DCI, Jason Crutchfield, Erica Haskins, Bill Schrader, Dave Rockmart,
John Stoke, Danny Wisesong, Mark Graham, Pat Crosby, Jim Crosby, Mike Wysong, Jo
Higgins, Don Long, Bill Fritz, Andrew Kuppel
Crozet Community Advisory Committee (CCAC) Members Present: Dave Stoner,
Mike Kunkel, Dean Eliason, Tom Loach, Doug Bates, Jon McKeon, Leslie Burns,
Martin Violette, Allie Pesch, Kim Guenther, Shawn Bird, Kostas Alibertis, Phil Best,
Sandra Mears
County Representatives Present: Ann Mallek, Jennie More, Mark Graham, Emily
Kilroy
November 2017 Agenda
1. Agenda Review (Dave Stoner - CCAC chair)
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Re-Store'n Station SP Amendment Presentation (Jo Higgins, Re-Store'n
Station - 45 min)
4. Project Updates & Discussion (45 min)
a. Neighborhood Improvement Funding Initiative (NIFI) - Crozet Square
Streetscape - approved
b. Barnes Lumber Rezoning - applicant's requested deferral
C. Western Park Master Plan Update - follow-up discussion
5. Downtown Crozet Initiative - Request for Virginia Main Street Affiliate
Application Support
6. Items Not Listed on the Agenda
7. Announcements and Future Agenda Items
Motion to approve the October 2017 CCAC meeting minutes pending review and
changes, if suggested and/or made, over 7 days following the CCAC meeting. Motion
to approved October 2017 minutes presented by Tom Loach; motion seconded by
Martin Violette. Minutes subsequently approved by all CCAC members present; no
nay votes.
Dave Stoner: Begins with the Project Updates and Discussion on the Agenda before
Re-Store'n Station presentation.
Project Updates:
Dave Stoner: NIFI - BoD approved the square and streetscape
Emily Kilroy - $200K BoD approved for Crozet Square and Streetscape along with
the revenue sharing. There will be a match if the project is awarded; county expects
to hear back from VDOT in May (2018).
Dave Stoner: Barnes Lumber rezoning. Frank Stoner submitted a deferral request.
Milestone needs more time to work on easements; they are close to complete. He
does not want alternative plan. Deferral can be up to one year. Frank wants the
rezoning before the Planning Commission by the first quarter (2018); also would
like the CCAC to say something (supportive) to the Planning Commission. CCAC
should wait to respond until Planning Commission date set and Staff review are
completed.
Ann Mallek - there are technical tiedowns from VDOT needed while the deferral is
in process.
Dave Stoner - During October CCAC meeting we reviewed the county Western Park
Master Plan; to follow-up, do we (CCAC) have an opinion on the WP Master Plan?
Tom Loach - How did we have this situation in the first place? We should have
started with the Crozet Master Plan (the original plan). The county did not review
the original plan, but created a new plan. Process -wise we should go back to the
Crozet Master Plan. Another question - how did the Boy Scouts get involved in the
process? This is a community park; there are specific references from Bill Riley
stating that Western Park is a community park. CCAC supposed to lead the Master
Plan; we missed it.
Ann Mallek - Outlying communities want to know why we can't use the park. FEMA
changed how the land (Western Park) was classified. David Anholt will have ideas
to come back and discuss options about Western Park with CCAC. Parks and
Recreation procedure supposed to be used for Western Park. $6 mil plan will not
happen; soccer fields will not happen either.
Tom Loach - we need to start with original plan; Western Park was quid pro quo
from accepting more houses in Old Trail.
Ann Mallek - Appendix B of Crozet Master Plan - Western Park - could be updated
without update to full Master Plan.
Leslie Burns - What we have are perspectives of how people see Western Park
being used now vs. years ago.
Jennie More - the Western Park plan is not online for some to see.
Allie Pesch - Dave Anholt did not present the map; it seems like we were starting
over.
Kostas Alibertis - county is catching up; countless things stacking up for action like
infrastructure; we need the infrastructure in place; we should review the
infrastructure of our area and we should aggressively pursue that development.
Dave Stoner - anything for Western Park? Process - why not change the plan? New
things couched based upon WHY we are changing plan? Other comment: many
thought the Boy Scouts proposal was not right. It did not fit with what we want with
Western Park.
Shawn Bird - could someone describe the history of Old Trail for us young folks. We
need to understand context. Did Old Trail or the county drop the ball?
Ann Mallek - $100 mil of projects during S years during recession did not get done.
1200 is the number of the rezoning
Tom Loach - the original library request was in 1984 and it was small then. Have
Bill Riley come in to talk about it.
Dave Stoner - we need to have a prepared presentation; not do it on the fly.
Allie Pesch - how did the Boy Scouts get that amount of time to present?
Ann Mallek - it was an open Parks and Recreation meeting; we did not want to be
criticized for not allowing the Boy Scouts the opportunity to present a proposal.
Can't find the Western Park plan online either.
Bill Schrader - Have Parks and Recreation read the Master Plan; we can't use the
2008 story as a crutch; what Tom Loach said was FACT. More delay means we can't
do it - self-fulfilling prophecy.
Dave Stoner: Introduces Jo Higgins to present the Re-store'n Station SP
Amendment.
Jo Higgins - has the site plan for current development; thank you for allowing (me)
to present; Legacy Markets is the name of the station now. Describes her
experience: served on the Planning Commission; director of engineering and public
works; original CCAC member; been on most side of issues. This SP Amendment is
all about compliance; Michelle Sprouse here as owner; zoned Highway commercial;
2008 site plan for office, convenience and gas pumps; 400 gal/day on private
systems; project that use half the average amount of water; plan always to open
store and then get water usage data; no choice for SUP, had to set with one gallon;
approved in 2010 on 9 conditions; section 12 of Albemarle county Land Use
Handbook; need to understand the rules and compliance; SUP must be evaluated on
reasonable standards; store opened in 2014; came in immediately to request
expansion; proven use with 2 years of water usage at 250 gal/day avg, 380 gal/day
peak usage; no impact; want to amend only two conditions.
No change to site plan proposed; 2 conditions
S 16 hours of operations; want 4 more hours
8 adjust customer parking
pumps can stay open without restriction
6 9 pumps approved; 2 more pumps; alternative fuel
SUP is only related to water usage and nothing else.
Sandra Mears - is this this a trick way to continuously request changes?
Jo Higgins - based upon water usage, we are in compliance; will not exceed by right
water requirements; site designs in compliance; property owners present have
never been satisfied.
Jason Crutchfield - how many of the 9 conditions have you violated? Overnight
parking, trees to block view, for example.
Jo Higgins - trees have been planted.
Kostas Alibertis - supplied misleading information to get the store open?
Martin Violette - seems that you setting yourself in the future to request expansion.
Tom Loach - this is really about the community impact.
Jason - using water as a loophole.
Jo Higgins - owners has never filed a lawsuit against the county.
Dave Stoner - what in your request will help mitigate the issues?
Jo Higgins - what ever we have done, we have spoken/met with the community.
Other neighbor - you have never met with me.
Crutchfields - none of the conditions you said have happened.
Meg/Citizen - we do not want to fight about this issue; we want a business to be a
part of our community; exhausting; take in what we have said; make us embrace
your business.
Jon McKeon - why can't Mr. Sprouse stand in front of the community?
Shawn - can we get a layout of the area to better understand?
Dave - thank you Jo.
Bill Fritz - Planning Commission Dec 5; this project will go before the Planning
Commission then; Planning Commission will have a public hearing; then Planning
Commission recommendation will be forwarded to the Board of Supervisors; date
that SUP Amendment goes before the Board of Supervisors will not be set until the
Planning Commission meeting held.
Citizen - is it possible to set up a meeting between two parties and the CCAC?
Dave Stoner - do we want to have a resolution to put before the Planning
Commission?
Tom Loach - do not support SUP Amendment; it is not in line with growth on 250
and Master Plan.
Jon McKeon - Presents motion to say no to Re-Store'n Station SUP Amendment.
Phil Best - seconds the motion to say no presented by Jon McKeon.
Shawn Bird - include open channels of communication.
Dave Stoner - Planning Commission motion with mitigating factors should be
included or taken into consideration; all CCAC members present vote yes to Jon
McKeon motion. No nay votes.
DO requesting to participate in the DHCD Commercial District Affiliation Program.
DO members will apply. Details:
- Wants to have Crozet a vibrant place
- Filing for non-profit status
- DCI paperwork
- Main Street Affiliate - related to corporate status; CDP
Do now, grant available; due Dec 1
$7K application, bring in consultants to help
Benefits - resources to access information to create revitalization
Leslie Burns presents motion to: Authorize DO to participate in the DHCD
Commercial District Affiliate Program; Tom Loach seconds the motion. All CCAC
members present vote yes; no nay votes.
Dave Stoner adjourns the meeting at 8:52 PM.